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The complaints have been heard and dismissed for lack of evidence dozens of times in courtrooms across the country. The president and his lawyers making a clai
by empthought 6y ago
The complaints have been heard and dismissed for lack of evidence dozens of times in courtrooms across the country.
The president and his lawyers making a claim without presenting evidence is not grounds for overturning an election, full stop. They’re the ones who are lying, fomenting insurrection, and deserve to be shamed.
The people who believe them are unfortunate.
- linuxftw 6y agoBe more specific. There were many lawsuits dismissed for a variety of reasons. Pick one, and let's talk about that one.
- empthought 6y agoLet’s talk about any courtroom case that had any admitted evidence of fraud on the order of “thousands of votes” first.
- linuxftw 6y agoEdit: It seems an awful lot like parent hasn't reviewed any particular case, just using media talking points.
- empthought 6y agoEdit: it seems an awful like parent can’t concede that fraud was not even alleged in the majority of Trump cases, and in nearly every case where it was originally alleged, the Trump team dropped the case.
- tekknik 6y agoHow about you focus instead on securing the roster and less about widespread fraud. The system is built to be anonymous so finding evidence is not possible. The problem instead is people being on the roster when they shouldn’t. I know of 2 cases of this, one of which was in my immediate. Both instances an individual received a ballot but should not have. One of the individuals was not even a US citizen, yet they were registered to vote. Dems didn’t want voter IDs, don’t want voter reform because of “disenfranchisement”.
- empthought 6y agoThe system is absolutely not built to be anonymous, this is a blatant lie. Did any ineligible voter cast a vote in your anecdotes? No? Hmm.
- tekknik 6y agoYou need to re-up your knowledge on voting. Why is a voters name not on the ballot? Why is there an envelope? The system most definitely is anonymous.
- empthought 6y agoThat is a secret ballot, not an anonymous ballot. The principle of one person, one vote is maintained by ensuring that each person — not anonymous — can cast one and only one vote, a secret vote, and that persons not eligible to vote — again, not anonymous — can cast none.
- tekknik 6y agoOnce the ballot is open is anonymous. https://www.quora.com/Is-voting-anonymous-in-the-United-States https://www.quora.com/Is-voting-anonymous-in-the-United-Stat... It’s interesting that you were adamant about fraud not happening, yet didn’t know the actual argument. Further not knowing our elections are anonymous shows that you’re just arguing a point you don’t know. This is what I meant by the left not listening. The assumption is the right is “uneducated” yet here we are explaining what the real problem is while reeducating you.
- empthought 6y agoit’s interesting that Quora is your premiere go-to source here. You raised a question about the rosters which are by definition not anonymous, being a list of names. To show fraud you would need to show evidence that someone cast a vote while not on the roster or incorrectly on the roster. The registration, chain of custody and observer rules prevent this from happening at a large scale.