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Does anyone else think it's suspicious that they built everything on AWS? I mean, if you know you're going to take heat for your content being less moderated, w

Does anyone else think it's suspicious that they built everything on AWS? I mean, if you know you're going to take heat for your content being less moderated, wouldn't you diversify your infrastructure? I wonder if someone wanted this to happen, in order to increase support for certain legislative action?

jeffreyrogers 6y ago
Why would they know they would take heat for their moderation policy? Are there any other examples? I can't think of any. Edit: I mean examples where companies lose access to core services due to their moderation policy. I know twitter and facebook get shit for theirs all the time, but nothing substantive ever happens.
- causalmodels 6y ago
  I think Gab [1] is a relevant example. They were dropped by their GoDaddy, Stripe, PayPal, etc. after the tree of life shooter posted their manifesto on the site. Another example would be Cloudflare dropping 8chan [2] after the El Paso shooter, Christchurch shooter, and Poway synagogue shooter used the site to post their manifestos. Cloudflare also dropped support for the neo-nazi website The Daily Stormer [3] although my impression is that the reason for termination was deeply related to people on the website claiming their continued business relationship signaled ideological sympathy on the part of Cloudflare [4 -- about halfway down] [1] https://techcrunch.com/2018/10/28/far-right-social-network-gab-goes-offline-after-godaddy-tells-it-to-find-another-domain-registrar/ https://techcrunch.com/2018/10/28/far-right-social-network-g... [2] https://blog.cloudflare.com/terminating-service-for-8chan/ https://blog.cloudflare.com/terminating-service-for-8chan/ [3]https://blog.cloudflare.com/why-we-terminated-daily-stormer/ https://blog.cloudflare.com/why-we-terminated-daily-stormer/ [4] https://www.wired.com/story/free-speech-issue-cloudflare/ https://www.wired.com/story/free-speech-issue-cloudflare/
asdffdsa 6y ago
Ockam's razor man, I doubt they even considered it. And by the time they did, the app was too big to move and/or even secure another cloud provider.
zacharycohn 6y ago
I believe the person who started it was a former AWS engineer. Use what you know.
yesiamyourdad 6y ago
I'm pretty mindblown that after seeing what happened to 4chan/8chan, they didn't forsee this day coming. My theory is that Parler _wanted_ this to happen, so they could raise a stink / file a court case. The founder is a major ideologue and this whole thing might be better for business than if AWS had left them alone.
shrimpx 6y ago
I think it was just blind ignorance, evidenced by their rage and disbelief when it happened.

jeffreyrogers 6y ago

Why would they know they would take heat for their moderation policy? Are there any other examples? I can't think of any. Edit: I mean examples where companies lose access to core services due to their moderation policy. I know twitter and facebook get shit for theirs all the time, but nothing substantive ever happens.

causalmodels 6y ago
I think Gab [1] is a relevant example. They were dropped by their GoDaddy, Stripe, PayPal, etc. after the tree of life shooter posted their manifesto on the site. Another example would be Cloudflare dropping 8chan [2] after the El Paso shooter, Christchurch shooter, and Poway synagogue shooter used the site to post their manifestos. Cloudflare also dropped support for the neo-nazi website The Daily Stormer [3] although my impression is that the reason for termination was deeply related to people on the website claiming their continued business relationship signaled ideological sympathy on the part of Cloudflare [4 -- about halfway down] [1] https://techcrunch.com/2018/10/28/far-right-social-network-gab-goes-offline-after-godaddy-tells-it-to-find-another-domain-registrar/ https://techcrunch.com/2018/10/28/far-right-social-network-g... [2] https://blog.cloudflare.com/terminating-service-for-8chan/ https://blog.cloudflare.com/terminating-service-for-8chan/ [3]https://blog.cloudflare.com/why-we-terminated-daily-stormer/ https://blog.cloudflare.com/why-we-terminated-daily-stormer/ [4] https://www.wired.com/story/free-speech-issue-cloudflare/ https://www.wired.com/story/free-speech-issue-cloudflare/

asdffdsa 6y ago

Ockam's razor man, I doubt they even considered it. And by the time they did, the app was too big to move and/or even secure another cloud provider.

zacharycohn 6y ago

I believe the person who started it was a former AWS engineer. Use what you know.

yesiamyourdad 6y ago

I'm pretty mindblown that after seeing what happened to 4chan/8chan, they didn't forsee this day coming. My theory is that Parler _wanted_ this to happen, so they could raise a stink / file a court case. The founder is a major ideologue and this whole thing might be better for business than if AWS had left them alone.

shrimpx 6y ago

I think it was just blind ignorance, evidenced by their rage and disbelief when it happened.