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I moved to Diaspora after Google Plus was killed. It's mostly good, if small, but with one really big problem: you can block trolls, but trolls can always creat
by mcv 6y ago
I moved to Diaspora after Google Plus was killed. It's mostly good, if small, but with one really big problem: you can block trolls, but trolls can always create new accounts and come back.
It's probably impossible to create a decentralised social network where don't constantly have to reblock the same trolls but also don't get locked into a tiny closed community. I want to be able to talk and share with the whole world, but I don't want to have to block the same assholes over and over again because they keep making new accounts. And I assure you that trolls can get pretty bad on any open, decentralised system. They certainly do on Diaspora.
Maybe something where your network only expands through trusted nodes in your network: if a friend follows a lot of trolls, maybe keep him as a friend, but don't allow your network to expand that way. But someone else might follow a lot of interesting people, so open up your network a bit more in that direction.
- dnautics 6y agoJust make it $1/yr per account. Sure there will be trolls, but they have to pay for the privilege of each sock puppet account
- sliken 6y agoI think it would be better to make all communications require an acceptance. Like accepting a facebook friend, of google hangouts. Then charge for acceptances, even $0.10 per user would likely be not a big deal for users, but prohibitive for spammers who want to message millions and only a very small fraction will be gullible enough to pay for whatever the spammer is selling.
- mcv 6y agoBut who does the money go to if it's fully decentralised?
- jMyles 6y agoSimply burning it is an option. (Though I must say, I don't care for this entire line of thinking - it just gives spamming advantages to the wealthy, which is exactly the reason for crafting an alternative to facebook in the first place.)
- seneca 6y agoCould go to a foundation setup to fund development of the underlying tech.
- khrbrt 6y agoSomething Awful solved this problem twenty years ago by charging a small fee ($5) to register an account. "Banned" users could re-activate their account by paying the fee again. "Permabanned" users would have to jump through more steps like different email addresses and payment methods. This upped the investment required for casual toxic trolling. But this was for an old school "centralized" forum. Not sure what "paying for an account" would entail for a decentralized network.
- swebs 6y ago4chan also does the same with a $20 (paid in bitcoin) 4chan pass. Without it, people have to go through an awful captcha each time they post.
- phuff 6y agoOne way some federated, decentralized communications platforms in development try to solve this problem by ensuring that there's a small charge of some kind to interact -- for example by putting a cryptocurrency into the platform and requiring all interactions to bear some kind of cryptocurrency cost. I'm not sure that this is actually tenable in the long term given that none of them have really been sucessful, I'm not sure if it's going to work out.