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The NYT did not make the Iraq war possible. It did not facilitate planning the war. It did not play any role in convincing the Bush administration to go to wa
by betterunix2 6y ago
The NYT did not make the Iraq war possible. It did not facilitate planning the war. It did not play any role in convincing the Bush administration to go to war.
Can we stop with the "whataboutism" already?
- Reedx 6y agoThey played a large role in selling the war to the public (manufacturing consent).
- dontreact 6y agoWhen the state is lying, it is not easy for reporters to find out that they are lying. They printed what was at the time a bipartisan consensus which had formed on the basis of lies. So I guess they were involved, but the journalists in the organization in the time did not have the power or the information to swim against the currents of what was happening. Even if they had shut down their paper, we would have gone to war with Iraq. On the other hand, Parler has purposefully created a space for people to plan violence against the state, and refused requests to be more careful about moderating.
- IncRnd 6y ago> They printed what was at the time a bipartisan consensus which had formed on the basis of lies. And that is why truth by consensus is not a good way for a reporter to report compared to actually investigating somethng beforehand.
- PaulDavisThe1st 6y agoHave you ever seen anyone seriously defend what Judith Miller (et al.) actually did?
- _pmf_ 6y agoReframing pointing out hypocrisy as "whataboutism" is the greatest trick the devil ever pulled.