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You can't be serious. There were literally millions of users on the platform.

newacct583 6y ago
Per Wikipedia, the count of active users was 4M. And that's about right for the community of active "MAGA head" republicans in question. A lot of the horror and cognitive dissonance of this moment is that the mob the President aimed at Congress on Wednesday was not a weird or fringe group. They were just his fans. Look at the crowd, along with the armored people smashing windows and beating cops were smiling grandparents with flags. It's all the same group. The overlap between "mainstream republican" and "right wing terrorist" in our society has become horrifyingly blurred. So a lot of sincere attempts to address extremism look like "censoring republicans".
- yanderekko 6y ago
  And a lot of insincere attempts to address extremism look like "censoring Republicans".
  - TomSwirly 6y ago
    Republicans have a perfectly good voice on conventional social media. No one's censoring people on social media for quoting William F. Buckley, but for actively planning and encouraging a violent insurrection.
    - yanderekko 6y ago
      Most people being banned did not do that, including Trump himself, and in fact the rapidly-expanding domain of speech that is being pretextually construed of as "actively planning and encouraging a violent insurrection" is in fact a large part of the problem here.
      - esc_colon_q 6y ago
        Literally declaring yourself the winner of an election that you solidly lost and then repeating that claim over and over again as your supporters rile themselves up and prepare for violence abso-fucking-lutely qualifies. If the election really was stolen (it wasn't), then violence on a grand scale would be more than justified (it's not), so pushing a false claim to that effect when you have as much power to make it stick is one of the most directly violent acts that can be committed. "This election was stolen" is way more dangerous than "Fire!" in a crowded theater because if the bullshit sticks then you actually end up with war.
        cyberdelica 6y ago
        Your comment really could do double duty, describing the last four years, where we've been told ad nauseum "Russian Hackers" armed with Facebook ads, kept Hillary Clinton out of the Whitehouse. Essentially, stealing "her turn".
  - _jal 6y ago
    I don't know which particular attempts you're referring to, actual referents would assist in understanding your point. But let's be clear: Republicans violently sacked Congress and and attempted to overthrow our government. It wasn't all Republicans, or even most. But the bulk of Republicans who didn't do this should be standing up and vocally disowning those who did, before their entire party is perverted. If you don't, I and a lot of other people will assume you support the Cruz, Hawley & Trump insurrection, with reason.
ceejayoz 6y ago
https://www.news10.com/news/us-capitol-coverage/poll-one-fifth-of-voters-almost-half-of-republicans-agree-with-storming-of-us-capitol/ https://www.news10.com/news/us-capitol-coverage/poll-one-fif... > Poll: One-fifth of voters, almost half of Republicans, agree with storming of US Capitol
- themaninthedark 6y ago
  Data is from: https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/articles-reports/2021/01/06/US-capitol-trump-poll?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=website_article&utm_campaign=snap_US_capitol_poll https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/articles-reports/20... The question asked was: "Supporters of President Trump have stormed the US Capitol to protest lawmakers certifying Joe Biden’s election victory. Based on what you have read or heard about this, do you support or oppose these actions? (%)" Breakdown groups were: Strongly or somewhat support, Don't know, N/A - Unaware of the story, Strongly or somewhat oppose I would be interested in seeing the strongly and somewhat support breakdowns. I have no problem with groups protesting elections, I think that the Trump supporters who stormed the Capitol building did the worst thing for their cause.
TomSwirly 6y ago
Literally tens of millions of people strongly supported the attack on the Capitol. And instead of realizing that this is a bad idea, they are doubling down.

Per Wikipedia, the count of active users was 4M. And that's about right for the community of active "MAGA head" republicans in question. A lot of the horror and cognitive dissonance of this moment is that the mob the President aimed at Congress on Wednesday was not a weird or fringe group. They were just his fans. Look at the crowd, along with the armored people smashing windows and beating cops were smiling grandparents with flags. It's all the same group. The overlap between "mainstream republican" and "right wing terrorist" in our society has become horrifyingly blurred. So a lot of sincere attempts to address extremism look like "censoring republicans".

yanderekko 6y ago
And a lot of insincere attempts to address extremism look like "censoring Republicans".
- TomSwirly 6y ago
  Republicans have a perfectly good voice on conventional social media. No one's censoring people on social media for quoting William F. Buckley, but for actively planning and encouraging a violent insurrection.
  - yanderekko 6y ago
    Most people being banned did not do that, including Trump himself, and in fact the rapidly-expanding domain of speech that is being pretextually construed of as "actively planning and encouraging a violent insurrection" is in fact a large part of the problem here.
    - esc_colon_q 6y ago
      Literally declaring yourself the winner of an election that you solidly lost and then repeating that claim over and over again as your supporters rile themselves up and prepare for violence abso-fucking-lutely qualifies. If the election really was stolen (it wasn't), then violence on a grand scale would be more than justified (it's not), so pushing a false claim to that effect when you have as much power to make it stick is one of the most directly violent acts that can be committed. "This election was stolen" is way more dangerous than "Fire!" in a crowded theater because if the bullshit sticks then you actually end up with war.
      - cyberdelica 6y ago
        Your comment really could do double duty, describing the last four years, where we've been told ad nauseum "Russian Hackers" armed with Facebook ads, kept Hillary Clinton out of the Whitehouse. Essentially, stealing "her turn".
- _jal 6y ago
  I don't know which particular attempts you're referring to, actual referents would assist in understanding your point. But let's be clear: Republicans violently sacked Congress and and attempted to overthrow our government. It wasn't all Republicans, or even most. But the bulk of Republicans who didn't do this should be standing up and vocally disowning those who did, before their entire party is perverted. If you don't, I and a lot of other people will assume you support the Cruz, Hawley & Trump insurrection, with reason.

ceejayoz 6y ago

https://www.news10.com/news/us-capitol-coverage/poll-one-fifth-of-voters-almost-half-of-republicans-agree-with-storming-of-us-capitol/ https://www.news10.com/news/us-capitol-coverage/poll-one-fif... > Poll: One-fifth of voters, almost half of Republicans, agree with storming of US Capitol

themaninthedark 6y ago
Data is from: https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/articles-reports/2021/01/06/US-capitol-trump-poll?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=website_article&utm_campaign=snap_US_capitol_poll https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/articles-reports/20... The question asked was: "Supporters of President Trump have stormed the US Capitol to protest lawmakers certifying Joe Biden’s election victory. Based on what you have read or heard about this, do you support or oppose these actions? (%)" Breakdown groups were: Strongly or somewhat support, Don't know, N/A - Unaware of the story, Strongly or somewhat oppose I would be interested in seeing the strongly and somewhat support breakdowns. I have no problem with groups protesting elections, I think that the Trump supporters who stormed the Capitol building did the worst thing for their cause.

TomSwirly 6y ago

Literally tens of millions of people strongly supported the attack on the Capitol. And instead of realizing that this is a bad idea, they are doubling down.