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Either way a platform that freeley allows the organization of violent mobs has no place, and neither does anybody who supports it. I feel the same way about Fa

by papaf 6y ago

Either way a platform that freeley allows the organization of violent mobs has no place, and neither does anybody who supports it. I feel the same way about Facebook [1]. This is not whataboutism. I truly believe Facebook should also be shutdown for its role in Genocide. [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/15/technology/myanmar-facebook-genocide.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/15/technology/myanmar-facebo...

BlueTemplar 6y ago
I have a big issue with the importance of Facebook in this specific story (even if something similar will almost certainly happen or already have happened elsewhere) : I have been to Myanmar. The kind of people that they are talking about overwhelmingly are too poor to afford Internet/Facebook !
- papaf 6y ago
  About 30% of the population: https://napoleoncat.com/stats/facebook-users-in-myanmar/2018/09 https://napoleoncat.com/stats/facebook-users-in-myanmar/2018... Its enough to raise a mob. Facebook are also central to the investigation: https://thediplomat.com/2020/08/how-facebook-is-complicit-in-myanmars-attacks-on-minorities/ https://thediplomat.com/2020/08/how-facebook-is-complicit-in...
  - BlueTemplar 6y ago
    Those 30% overwhelmingly live in the biggest cities. Not in the poor villages where the ethnic tensions started. (However, maybe Facebook indeed made things worse, once the Facebook-connected military got involved.)
    - papaf 6y ago
      Both internet and Facebook were available in rural areas. Described as an "internet revolution" at the time: https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2016/01/the-facebook-loving-farmers-of-myanmar/424812/ https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2016/01/the-f... The UN also said that Facebook played a "determining role" (see the Diplomat link).
      - BlueTemplar 6y ago
        Hmm, I guess it's my damn fault for staying too much on the tourist route and assuming things from appearances ! Charging phones from car batteries, damn !

by papaf 6y ago

BlueTemplar 6y ago

I have a big issue with the importance of Facebook in this specific story (even if something similar will almost certainly happen or already have happened elsewhere) : I have been to Myanmar. The kind of people that they are talking about overwhelmingly are too poor to afford Internet/Facebook !

papaf 6y ago
About 30% of the population: https://napoleoncat.com/stats/facebook-users-in-myanmar/2018/09 https://napoleoncat.com/stats/facebook-users-in-myanmar/2018... Its enough to raise a mob. Facebook are also central to the investigation: https://thediplomat.com/2020/08/how-facebook-is-complicit-in-myanmars-attacks-on-minorities/ https://thediplomat.com/2020/08/how-facebook-is-complicit-in...
- BlueTemplar 6y ago
  Those 30% overwhelmingly live in the biggest cities. Not in the poor villages where the ethnic tensions started. (However, maybe Facebook indeed made things worse, once the Facebook-connected military got involved.)
  - papaf 6y ago
    Both internet and Facebook were available in rural areas. Described as an "internet revolution" at the time: https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2016/01/the-facebook-loving-farmers-of-myanmar/424812/ https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2016/01/the-f... The UN also said that Facebook played a "determining role" (see the Diplomat link).
    - BlueTemplar 6y ago
      Hmm, I guess it's my damn fault for staying too much on the tourist route and assuming things from appearances ! Charging phones from car batteries, damn !