5 ms·

The ramifications of this will absolutely set a record for the future as the inevitable reverse will happen. People are forgetting that if they're ok with this

The ramifications of this will absolutely set a record for the future as the inevitable reverse will happen. People are forgetting that if they're ok with this sort of behavior now, it'll be difficult for them to argue-against or prevent the same behavior when their opposites are in control.

guscost 6y ago
They are betting everything on the belief that they will win permanently this time, and their opponents will never get control again.
- valvar 6y ago
  It reminds me of Pascal's wager. How confident can one be that one's chosen political team will definitely win out in the long run? 90%? That seems very high, but even if you're 99% sure, are you willing to act in a way that will surely warrant retribution in the unlikely adverse scenario? Seems like a pretty dumb wager to make.
- deleted 6y ago
  [deleted]
boredumb 6y ago
Under the assumption people are remotely ingenuous I'd agree, but in recent years I think that ship has sailed. The means always justify the ends, and ideological consistency is apparently chalked up to a loser's game.
scythe 6y ago
>The ramifications of this will absolutely set a record for the future as the inevitable reverse will happen. Will happen? Try has happened. Partisan hacking has been a thing for a decade. Remember the DNC emails? Remember weev? >People are forgetting that if they're ok with this sort of behavior now What does it matter if I'm okay with it? Nobody consulted me before breaking into Parler. In fact, they didn't take my opinion into account at all. Sure, grey-hats are somewhat motivated by public opinion, but even Mitch McConnell gave a floor speech on Wednesday angry enough to incite a few keyboard taps. >it'll be difficult for them to argue-against or prevent the same behavior Because American politics consistently punishes hypocrisy, right?
ceilingcorner 6y ago
I think it’s actually a part of the plan. When the opposite party gains power in 4 years and does the same thing, you get to call them tyrants then, too. Clearly no one cares about being hypocritical anymore. All that matters is winning the media outrage battle of the moment.
- throwaway316943 6y ago
  Unfortunately it won’t be the same. The precedent will have been set and they’ll be able to ratchet it up to a new level. It’s going to be bad and I’m disgusted by how many people in here are cheering it on when it’s their side doing the kicking. Doxing, canceling, Twitter hate mobs, riot-protests, attacks on journalists, politically motivated violence. All becoming standard practice. Nobody cares as long as it’s their team scoring a goal. You’d have to be blind not to see where this is leading.
  - ceilingcorner 6y ago
    I am very, very concerned where it is heading. Trump is a temporary disaster that will be gone soon. Dangerous new precedents won’t be.
yanderekko 6y ago
>People are forgetting that if they're ok with this sort of behavior now, it'll be difficult for them to argue-against or prevent the same behavior when their opposites are in control. I'd argue the opposite: As the rank rhetorical hypocrisy on BLM-related protests vs. Trump protests shows, the marketplace of ideas has broken down and all that really matters is power. We're only a couple steps away from tech/media being able to dictate that we've always been at war with Eastasia, with a horde of willing partisans being eager to punish any sort of dissent on the matter. Being hypocritical is unimportant if you have the ability to mess with the lives of those who are too vocal in pointing out whatever hypocrisy. Most people are perfectly rational in not being willing to risk cancellation by speaking up.
IfOnlyYouKnew 6y ago
Feel free to doxx all the antifa message boards where we one-up each other with fun new ways to execute our foes.
arbitrage 6y ago
The ramifications for pursuing and persecuting traitors to the United States of American are going to be what, exactly? Please tell me how rooting out seditionists is a bad thing.
adrr 6y ago
Ramification is Parler is going to be first company to see how effective CCPA is in punishing companies that have inadequate security.

guscost 6y ago

They are betting everything on the belief that they will win permanently this time, and their opponents will never get control again.

valvar 6y ago
It reminds me of Pascal's wager. How confident can one be that one's chosen political team will definitely win out in the long run? 90%? That seems very high, but even if you're 99% sure, are you willing to act in a way that will surely warrant retribution in the unlikely adverse scenario? Seems like a pretty dumb wager to make.
deleted 6y ago
[deleted]

boredumb 6y ago

Under the assumption people are remotely ingenuous I'd agree, but in recent years I think that ship has sailed. The means always justify the ends, and ideological consistency is apparently chalked up to a loser's game.

scythe 6y ago

>The ramifications of this will absolutely set a record for the future as the inevitable reverse will happen. Will happen? Try has happened. Partisan hacking has been a thing for a decade. Remember the DNC emails? Remember weev? >People are forgetting that if they're ok with this sort of behavior now What does it matter if I'm okay with it? Nobody consulted me before breaking into Parler. In fact, they didn't take my opinion into account at all. Sure, grey-hats are somewhat motivated by public opinion, but even Mitch McConnell gave a floor speech on Wednesday angry enough to incite a few keyboard taps. >it'll be difficult for them to argue-against or prevent the same behavior Because American politics consistently punishes hypocrisy, right?

ceilingcorner 6y ago

I think it’s actually a part of the plan. When the opposite party gains power in 4 years and does the same thing, you get to call them tyrants then, too. Clearly no one cares about being hypocritical anymore. All that matters is winning the media outrage battle of the moment.

throwaway316943 6y ago
Unfortunately it won’t be the same. The precedent will have been set and they’ll be able to ratchet it up to a new level. It’s going to be bad and I’m disgusted by how many people in here are cheering it on when it’s their side doing the kicking. Doxing, canceling, Twitter hate mobs, riot-protests, attacks on journalists, politically motivated violence. All becoming standard practice. Nobody cares as long as it’s their team scoring a goal. You’d have to be blind not to see where this is leading.
- ceilingcorner 6y ago
  I am very, very concerned where it is heading. Trump is a temporary disaster that will be gone soon. Dangerous new precedents won’t be.

yanderekko 6y ago

>People are forgetting that if they're ok with this sort of behavior now, it'll be difficult for them to argue-against or prevent the same behavior when their opposites are in control. I'd argue the opposite: As the rank rhetorical hypocrisy on BLM-related protests vs. Trump protests shows, the marketplace of ideas has broken down and all that really matters is power. We're only a couple steps away from tech/media being able to dictate that we've always been at war with Eastasia, with a horde of willing partisans being eager to punish any sort of dissent on the matter. Being hypocritical is unimportant if you have the ability to mess with the lives of those who are too vocal in pointing out whatever hypocrisy. Most people are perfectly rational in not being willing to risk cancellation by speaking up.

IfOnlyYouKnew 6y ago

Feel free to doxx all the antifa message boards where we one-up each other with fun new ways to execute our foes.

arbitrage 6y ago

The ramifications for pursuing and persecuting traitors to the United States of American are going to be what, exactly? Please tell me how rooting out seditionists is a bad thing.

adrr 6y ago

Ramification is Parler is going to be first company to see how effective CCPA is in punishing companies that have inadequate security.