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Don't worry, the "hacked material" rule on twitter will prevent anything derived from this being posted on twitter. Right???

by nullc 6y ago

yalogin 6y ago
Applying the rules uniformly means Twitter should wait 4 yrs and then ban them. I am sure you will agree to that.
- nullc 6y ago
  You're referring to 2024 when twitter will ban the NY Times for posting materials derived from the orange clown's taxes and the NY Post for posting materials derived from the President-elect's son's laptop? Ah. Wait. They took one of these actions within an hour of it going up. :P I suppose it'll be no time at all until they take down the account of the person hacking Parler and live tweeting the content being discussed in this article... which they've been doing for that past ... 48 hours.
judge2020 6y ago
Since it's WARC and is going to end up on archive.org (archive.org is going to host it, but a different org 'archive team' are the ones who downloaded it), twitter isn't going to stop it from being posted since it's just going to show up as a link to web.archive.org. Arguably this isn't 'hacked data' since it's stuff that was wget'd and no security measure circumvention took place.
- nullc 6y ago
  > no security measure circumvention took place You don't consider exploiting 2fa fail-open being triggered by deplatforming by their 2fa provider being used to mass password reset accounts and vacuum up their private messages not a security circumvention? What about using a arbitrary content type upload on their video subdomain to implement an XSS attack to allow them to download all videos, including ones sent privately between users?
  - judge2020 6y ago
    https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/parler-grab/blob/master/parler.lua https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/parler-grab/blob/master/parle... There might have been other attacks in the way you describe, but it doesn't seem to be used by the team behind archiving the content. https://archive.org/details/archiveteam_neparlepas https://archive.org/details/archiveteam_neparlepas
- 1024core 6y ago
  Why can't I download these files from archive.org? All of the interesting files are marked as "not available for download"
  - judge2020 6y ago
    Maybe because it's still being imported, but the archive.org team probably needs to review it and make it more widely available (ie. on web.archive.org).
    - 1024core 6y ago
      If "the team needs to review it", I guess we're going to have another gatekeeper?

Don't worry, the "hacked material" rule on twitter will prevent anything derived from this being posted on twitter. Right???

by nullc 6y ago

Don't worry, the "hacked material" rule on twitter will prevent anything derived from this being posted on twitter. Right???

yalogin 6y ago

Applying the rules uniformly means Twitter should wait 4 yrs and then ban them. I am sure you will agree to that.

nullc 6y ago
You're referring to 2024 when twitter will ban the NY Times for posting materials derived from the orange clown's taxes and the NY Post for posting materials derived from the President-elect's son's laptop? Ah. Wait. They took one of these actions within an hour of it going up. :P I suppose it'll be no time at all until they take down the account of the person hacking Parler and live tweeting the content being discussed in this article... which they've been doing for that past ... 48 hours.

judge2020 6y ago

Since it's WARC and is going to end up on archive.org (archive.org is going to host it, but a different org 'archive team' are the ones who downloaded it), twitter isn't going to stop it from being posted since it's just going to show up as a link to web.archive.org. Arguably this isn't 'hacked data' since it's stuff that was wget'd and no security measure circumvention took place.

nullc 6y ago
> no security measure circumvention took place You don't consider exploiting 2fa fail-open being triggered by deplatforming by their 2fa provider being used to mass password reset accounts and vacuum up their private messages not a security circumvention? What about using a arbitrary content type upload on their video subdomain to implement an XSS attack to allow them to download all videos, including ones sent privately between users?
- judge2020 6y ago
  https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/parler-grab/blob/master/parler.lua https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/parler-grab/blob/master/parle... There might have been other attacks in the way you describe, but it doesn't seem to be used by the team behind archiving the content. https://archive.org/details/archiveteam_neparlepas https://archive.org/details/archiveteam_neparlepas
1024core 6y ago
Why can't I download these files from archive.org? All of the interesting files are marked as "not available for download"
- judge2020 6y ago
  Maybe because it's still being imported, but the archive.org team probably needs to review it and make it more widely available (ie. on web.archive.org).
  - 1024core 6y ago
    If "the team needs to review it", I guess we're going to have another gatekeeper?