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> While it does feel reactionary (if that's the right word) that the services are only now revoking doing business with Parler, they are within their rights to

> While it does feel reactionary (if that's the right word) that the services are only now revoking doing business with Parler, they are within their rights to stop the contract one-sidedly. I'm actually fairly sure that in the contract they don't even have to state a reason, but don't quote me on that. Yeah most of these services are doing that to avoid being associated with Parler and these Trump movements. But it has an anti-democratic feel to it.

nkoren 6y ago
Yep, there are no good choices here. Parler is an organizing venue for Trump supporters attempting to overturn a democratic election and/or storm the capitol, which also has a rather anti-democratic feel to it, no? So you can think of it as a trolley problem with "democracy" strapped to both sets of tracks. Since democracy will be a casualty, to one extent or another, in both the "do nothing" and "do something" options, the service providers must ask themselves: which scenario will hurt democracy worse?
- SideburnsOfDoom 6y ago
  > the service providers must ask themselves: which scenario will hurt democracy worse? As I mentioned above, what they are likely asking themselves is pragmatic instead of moral, i.e. "which option exposes us as a company to the most legal problems? What hurts profits?" That explains why service providers changed their thinking so suddenly and dramatically after, you know, a whole lot of serious crimes against the state happened on the 6th, and the evidence trail runs through those service providers.
- SideburnsOfDoom 6y ago
  > the service providers must ask themselves: which scenario will hurt democracy worse Adendum: why _must_ they ask themselves that? Do you think Facebook ever has acted in that way? Do you think that Fox News does? It would be nice, but recognise that none of these are entities dedicated to maximising democracy. They have been behaving otherwise for decades. They won't spontaneously change of their own accord. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/06/technology/myanmar-facebook.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/06/technology/myanmar-facebo...
kylowinter 6y ago
You think that, democratically speaking, the majority of Americans are in favor of Parler conducting business? You think there should have been a vote or something? Amazon, Apple, etc don't work democratically though so it doesn't matter.
- AniseAbyss 6y ago
  We just had elections, see how that went.

nkoren 6y ago

Yep, there are no good choices here. Parler is an organizing venue for Trump supporters attempting to overturn a democratic election and/or storm the capitol, which also has a rather anti-democratic feel to it, no? So you can think of it as a trolley problem with "democracy" strapped to both sets of tracks. Since democracy will be a casualty, to one extent or another, in both the "do nothing" and "do something" options, the service providers must ask themselves: which scenario will hurt democracy worse?

SideburnsOfDoom 6y ago
> the service providers must ask themselves: which scenario will hurt democracy worse? As I mentioned above, what they are likely asking themselves is pragmatic instead of moral, i.e. "which option exposes us as a company to the most legal problems? What hurts profits?" That explains why service providers changed their thinking so suddenly and dramatically after, you know, a whole lot of serious crimes against the state happened on the 6th, and the evidence trail runs through those service providers.
SideburnsOfDoom 6y ago
> the service providers must ask themselves: which scenario will hurt democracy worse Adendum: why _must_ they ask themselves that? Do you think Facebook ever has acted in that way? Do you think that Fox News does? It would be nice, but recognise that none of these are entities dedicated to maximising democracy. They have been behaving otherwise for decades. They won't spontaneously change of their own accord. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/06/technology/myanmar-facebook.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/06/technology/myanmar-facebo...

kylowinter 6y ago

You think that, democratically speaking, the majority of Americans are in favor of Parler conducting business? You think there should have been a vote or something? Amazon, Apple, etc don't work democratically though so it doesn't matter.

AniseAbyss 6y ago
We just had elections, see how that went.