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> public policy backed by Republicans Are you asserting that Republicans controlled the cities and police forces in which "blacks are disproportionately target

> public policy backed by Republicans Are you asserting that Republicans controlled the cities and police forces in which "blacks are disproportionately targeted and harmed by police without consequence"?

Artistry121 6y ago
No... * defunding schools in minority areas via how school funding is created * war on drugs and mandatory minimum sentencing * selling military grade equipment to local police forces * supporting private prison infrastructure * preventing open discussion of criminal justice reform despite having the largest prison population in the developed world * sending drugs into minority communities via the CIA * supporting police unequivocally despite evidence of wrongdoing going unpunished ... are all public policies and social policies that can lead to that outcome. It’s not like cities “control their police departments”. Police are all autonomous with their own cultures and political beliefs influenced by a lot of rhetoric and policy and experience.
- gwright 6y ago
  > It’s not like cities “control their police departments”. All the things you listed (except for perhaps the selling of military equipment) is part of the policing responsibility of the states and local government. Those authorities have the authority and responsibility to "control their police departments"
awb 6y ago
> Are you asserting that Republicans controlled the cities and police forces in which "blacks are disproportionately targeted and harmed by police without consequence"? No, not all cities, but certainly _some_ cities. Wether that is by design or by pure luck is incidental to the point that the Young Turks can blame the BLM protests on Republicans with at least some shred of plausibility and evidence. Sure, maybe it’s a cheap generalization that lets Democrats off the hook, but in some areas of the country the blatant segregationist racism of the 60s never died, and in some of those areas Republicans (and Democrats) have made direct or indirect attempts to continue that suppression: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/a-civil-rights-expert-explains-the-social-science-of-police-racism/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/a-civil-rights-ex... So wether you agree or not, there’s a logical path that can be drawn from oppressor to oppressed. But claiming the 2020 election was rigged or stolen or had massive fraud to a degree that would have changed the election outcome was never demonstrated in any plausible way in any public venue. There are no dots connecting the oppressor and the oppressed. The “kraken” was never released. It’s simply a lie started by Trump that’s led to violent consequences and unnecessary death. If the Young Turks don’t blame BLM on the Republicans, the riots still happen. If Trump conceded he lost a fair election, no one dies. That’s the difference.

Artistry121 6y ago

No... * defunding schools in minority areas via how school funding is created * war on drugs and mandatory minimum sentencing * selling military grade equipment to local police forces * supporting private prison infrastructure * preventing open discussion of criminal justice reform despite having the largest prison population in the developed world * sending drugs into minority communities via the CIA * supporting police unequivocally despite evidence of wrongdoing going unpunished ... are all public policies and social policies that can lead to that outcome. It’s not like cities “control their police departments”. Police are all autonomous with their own cultures and political beliefs influenced by a lot of rhetoric and policy and experience.

gwright 6y ago
> It’s not like cities “control their police departments”. All the things you listed (except for perhaps the selling of military equipment) is part of the policing responsibility of the states and local government. Those authorities have the authority and responsibility to "control their police departments"

awb 6y ago

> Are you asserting that Republicans controlled the cities and police forces in which "blacks are disproportionately targeted and harmed by police without consequence"? No, not all cities, but certainly _some_ cities. Wether that is by design or by pure luck is incidental to the point that the Young Turks can blame the BLM protests on Republicans with at least some shred of plausibility and evidence. Sure, maybe it’s a cheap generalization that lets Democrats off the hook, but in some areas of the country the blatant segregationist racism of the 60s never died, and in some of those areas Republicans (and Democrats) have made direct or indirect attempts to continue that suppression: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/a-civil-rights-expert-explains-the-social-science-of-police-racism/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/a-civil-rights-ex... So wether you agree or not, there’s a logical path that can be drawn from oppressor to oppressed. But claiming the 2020 election was rigged or stolen or had massive fraud to a degree that would have changed the election outcome was never demonstrated in any plausible way in any public venue. There are no dots connecting the oppressor and the oppressed. The “kraken” was never released. It’s simply a lie started by Trump that’s led to violent consequences and unnecessary death. If the Young Turks don’t blame BLM on the Republicans, the riots still happen. If Trump conceded he lost a fair election, no one dies. That’s the difference.