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It's amazing the things partisanship makes acceptable. This is a crime, yet people are cheering it on because they don't like the target. And I'm pretty sure i

It's amazing the things partisanship makes acceptable. This is a crime, yet people are cheering it on because they don't like the target. And I'm pretty sure it's not allowed by reddit's and Twitter's ToS, yet this time it apparently is. Whatever Parler's role or responsibility in recent events, it should be sorted out by the justice system, not vigilantism. Those who would throw away the rule of law in order to protect it have already abandoned the principles they claim to be defending.

boomboomsubban 6y ago
It's sketchy on Twitter ToS. The original link just discussed the hack, which would be fine. Further comments have linked to hacked content, which is a violation. I'd guess Reddit will eventually delete those direct links making the tweet fine again.
- leereeves 6y ago
  I heard the Twitter ToS says discussing the hack is ok, but hacked content shared by the hacker is not. Twitter will stop removing ‘hacked content’ unless it’s shared by hackers.[1] The image in the OP shows a tweet (which is still up) from someone who claims to be one of the hackers. https://twitter.com/donk_enby https://twitter.com/donk_enby 1: https://www.theverge.com/2020/10/16/21519133/twitter-changing-hacked-materials-biden-dorsey-election https://www.theverge.com/2020/10/16/21519133/twitter-changin...
  - boomboomsubban 6y ago
    You are correct, I last checked the ToS around the Hunter Biden emails and was unaware it changed.
telescope 6y ago
Whatever Parler's role or responsibility in recent events, it's doubly so for Facebook and Twitter. Parler has a comparatively minuscule user base. The demo was also organized via email and was explicitly intended to be peaceful — what unfolded on 1/6 cannot be read at face value, and certainly what the media is portraying(both the corporate and alternative media) can't be read at face value.
- sildur 6y ago
  A peaceful trial by combat, right?
  - IntelMiner 6y ago
    Peacefully live-tweeting where Nancy Pelosi was Peacefully bringing firearms into the capital and calling it "1776"
    - pfdietz 6y ago
      Peaceful gallows and noose for peaceful hanging.
    - neotek 6y ago
      Peacefully knocking together a working set of gallows, complete with noose.
- peteretep 6y ago
  > and was explicitly intended to be peaceful Seems a lot of people didn’t get that particular memo
- archi42 6y ago
  Not sure what you're saying with that second sentence. There is legitimate reason to have some zip ties, yes. I don't know the US traditions that well, but I doubt molotov cocktails or pipe bombs are usually required for a peaceful demo? Now most people probably not even had guns, but attacking the Capitol? Come on. That's a direct, violent attack on the democratic processes. You're right that Facebook and Twitter should have acted sooner. Free speech doesn't mean a platform has no other option than to tolerate hate, violence and lies.
  - spiralx 6y ago
    The reason for the lack of guns is most likely that the attackers had come directly from a Trump rally where there was security at the entrance including metal detectors. Had that not been the case there would likely have been a lot more weapons.
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MrBuddyCasino 6y ago
Repressive Tolerance in action https://macris.substack.com/p/repressive-tolerance-in-action https://macris.substack.com/p/repressive-tolerance-in-action
violetgarden 6y ago
I agree. It makes me sick. Everyone in the comments is so giddy, and there’s a sickening, “look how smart we are” vibe.
IntelMiner 6y ago
Terrorism websites don't get to hide behind the law
sillysaurusx 6y ago
Hear, hear. I'd like to take some of the heat along with you. I really dislike the "two minute hate" we've had going on recently. Over the last week or so, it's been nothing but hate this, hate that. I get why it's happening, it just makes me sad.

boomboomsubban 6y ago

It's sketchy on Twitter ToS. The original link just discussed the hack, which would be fine. Further comments have linked to hacked content, which is a violation. I'd guess Reddit will eventually delete those direct links making the tweet fine again.

leereeves 6y ago
I heard the Twitter ToS says discussing the hack is ok, but hacked content shared by the hacker is not. Twitter will stop removing ‘hacked content’ unless it’s shared by hackers.[1] The image in the OP shows a tweet (which is still up) from someone who claims to be one of the hackers. https://twitter.com/donk_enby https://twitter.com/donk_enby 1: https://www.theverge.com/2020/10/16/21519133/twitter-changing-hacked-materials-biden-dorsey-election https://www.theverge.com/2020/10/16/21519133/twitter-changin...
- boomboomsubban 6y ago
  You are correct, I last checked the ToS around the Hunter Biden emails and was unaware it changed.

telescope 6y ago

Whatever Parler's role or responsibility in recent events, it's doubly so for Facebook and Twitter. Parler has a comparatively minuscule user base. The demo was also organized via email and was explicitly intended to be peaceful — what unfolded on 1/6 cannot be read at face value, and certainly what the media is portraying(both the corporate and alternative media) can't be read at face value.

sildur 6y ago
A peaceful trial by combat, right?
- IntelMiner 6y ago
  Peacefully live-tweeting where Nancy Pelosi was Peacefully bringing firearms into the capital and calling it "1776"
  - pfdietz 6y ago
    Peaceful gallows and noose for peaceful hanging.
  - neotek 6y ago
    Peacefully knocking together a working set of gallows, complete with noose.
peteretep 6y ago
> and was explicitly intended to be peaceful Seems a lot of people didn’t get that particular memo
archi42 6y ago
Not sure what you're saying with that second sentence. There is legitimate reason to have some zip ties, yes. I don't know the US traditions that well, but I doubt molotov cocktails or pipe bombs are usually required for a peaceful demo? Now most people probably not even had guns, but attacking the Capitol? Come on. That's a direct, violent attack on the democratic processes. You're right that Facebook and Twitter should have acted sooner. Free speech doesn't mean a platform has no other option than to tolerate hate, violence and lies.
- spiralx 6y ago
  The reason for the lack of guns is most likely that the attackers had come directly from a Trump rally where there was security at the entrance including metal detectors. Had that not been the case there would likely have been a lot more weapons.

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MrBuddyCasino 6y ago

Repressive Tolerance in action https://macris.substack.com/p/repressive-tolerance-in-action https://macris.substack.com/p/repressive-tolerance-in-action

violetgarden 6y ago

I agree. It makes me sick. Everyone in the comments is so giddy, and there’s a sickening, “look how smart we are” vibe.

IntelMiner 6y ago

Terrorism websites don't get to hide behind the law

sillysaurusx 6y ago

Hear, hear. I'd like to take some of the heat along with you. I really dislike the "two minute hate" we've had going on recently. Over the last week or so, it's been nothing but hate this, hate that. I get why it's happening, it just makes me sad.