Good point on having developers in loop in a software business. Tesla might be a counter example, where it is often touted to be run like a "tech" company. Are

Good point on having developers in loop in a software business. Tesla might be a counter example, where it is often touted to be run like a "tech" company. Are developers in loop in the design of non-software stuff? (is chassis design an example? or maybe not?) The other point on triangular communication with middle managers I think is known problem that Musk has publicly spoken about..