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> what is the evidence for this? > > ...this is a not a mob out for literal blood. No, this was 100% a mob out for literal blood. There is a STAGGERING
by tessierashpool 6y ago
> what is the evidence for this?
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> ...this is a not a mob out for literal blood.
No, this was 100% a mob out for literal blood. There is a STAGGERING amount of evidence.
There's video of a large crowd of the rioters chanting "hang Mike Pence!" They erected a gallows with a noose outside the Capitol. There's video of people yelling that they came to get Pence and Pelosi. Squads of milita wore tactical armor and helmets, and carried not just assault rifles and handguns, but also flexcuffs. You don't get that stuff in the spur of the moment. They came prepared. Other rioters were carrying lead pipes and wooden rods. There was even one rioter caught on video carrying a literal pitchfork.
They beat one police officer to death with a fire extinguisher and injured more than 50 others. That is clearly a mob out for blood.
As for more evidence, for months in advance, Trump supporters filled Parler, Gab, Twitter, Reddit, TikTok, Facebook, and many other social media outlets with detailed detailed discussions of plans to commit violence and in many cases murder at this event. NYPD and the FBI received a ton of reports from concerned citizens who saw this social media chatter. The insurrectionists talked about what weapons to bring, which politicians to target in order of priority, and so much more. It was reported that they had maps with them of the tunnels under the Capitol building so that they could cut off escape routes.
Freshman lawmaker Lauren Boebert tweeted Speaker Pelosi's whereabouts multiple times during the riot. She did not tweet anything which indicated any degree of surprise that the riot was occurring.
Jim Clyburn has two offices in the Capitol, one right next to the front doors and one way up on the third floor. It was reported that the rioters ignored Clyburn's obvious office next to the doors and instead made a beeline for the more secluded office on the third floor.
- roenxi 6y ago> No, this was 100% a mob out for literal blood. There is a STAGGERING amount of evidence. 100%? Literally all of them? Every one? I'm not looking for a metaphorical response here. Which parts of your response are backed actual evidence and which parts are assumptions based on your instincts and filling in blanks?
- didip 6y agor/DataHoarder archives a lot of data about this riot.
- roenxi 6y agoI think I'm helping seed at least one torrent from them. Which part should I be looking at for the staggering mountain of evidence that this isn't a pretty normal US protest?
- onion2k 6y agoNot everyone in the mob was out for blood, but the mob as a collective group was. The mob killed a police officer. Anyone who was part of the mob is partly to blame for that. No one can take part in a group action and then claim they're not responsible for what the group has done. When people act as a group they have to accept responsibility for the group's actions.
- oceanplexian 6y agoIt's starting to come out that his death was a driven by a medical condition and not actually as a result of violent attack. While the news is still fairly fresh it seems like most mainstream news organizations have been misrepresenting the facts.
- onion2k 6y agoThe way you wrote that makes it sound like you got that from a "non-mainstream" news organization. How do you know it's true?
- tessierashpool 6y agono, he was bludgeoned to death with a fire extinguisher. you might be thinking of the other cop who died, the one who committed suicide afterwards. but that was probably not a pre-existing condition either. more likely it was PTSD caused by the event. and there certainly haven't been any reports indicating any pre-existing condition for him. actually, you're probably thinking of the four rioters who died. all of their deaths were linked to pre-existing medical conditions. but you were replying to remarks about the police officer who was bludgeoned to death with a fire extinguisher. being bludgeoned to death with a fire extinguisher is not a pre-existing condition.