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There were gallows, bombs, armour, zip ties and guns brought to the protest. On many of the videos you can hear the trump supporters shouting cries to kill cert

There were gallows, bombs, armour, zip ties and guns brought to the protest. On many of the videos you can hear the trump supporters shouting cries to kill certain members of the government, calling them traitors. Oh and they beat a police officer to death. If they had found a senior official I don’t think they would have been safe.

roenxi 6y ago
> There were gallows, bombs, armour, zip ties and guns brought to the protest. How many guns, bombs and zip ties? Was it even enough protestors to be called a minority who bought bombs? The press would love a few photos of people with guns storming the capital, because those that I've seen look like very poorly behaved tourists with souvenirs and selfies. Gallows happen to be a traditional prop at protests (eg, [0]). > If they had found a senior official I don’t think they would have been safe. Nobody feels safe when a protest gets out of hand, but that doesn't make it a fact that the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th in the chain of command of the United states of America were about to be injured. It is entirely plausible that the mob would have screamed at them then been broken up. That is the most likely scenario. [0] https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/tommy-robinson-leads-brexit-betrayal-13709691 https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/tommy-robinson-leads-...
- slg 6y ago
  >How many guns, bombs and zip ties? Was it even enough protestors to be called a minority who bought bombs? Stop and take a second to listen to yourself. Is there an acceptable numbers of guns, bombs, and zip ties that are intended to be used on the leaders of this country?
  - roenxi 6y ago
    No, there isn't. But there is also no reason to assume that a protestor with no gun, bomb or ziptie is equivalent to one that has one. Lone wolves and troublemakers out to get Congresspeople exist. There might be a few in the mob. But the mob itself isn't made up of people like that. This is the same logic that was being applied to protestors all through 2020. It is hard to get away from the BLM protests being peaceful even with burning buildings in the background.
    - slg 6y ago
      How many "lone wolves" do you see in this clip[1]? No one is saying that every member of that mob had intentions to kill. There is no doubt that some people in the mob did and they got shockingly close to having the opportunity to do it. [1] - https://twitter.com/CalebJHull/status/1348334770103660553 https://twitter.com/CalebJHull/status/1348334770103660553
      - roenxi 6y ago
        0. That looks like a mob fighting police. If there were a few more yellow vests it could be France. A few more chants of "All cops are bad" and it could be footage from 2020. There are no pipe bombs. No guns. They do not deploy zip ties.
        slg 6y ago
        They are beating a police officer who is on the ground. Another officer was literally beaten to death. How many videos can you find of that happening during the BLM protests?
        roenxi 6y ago
        It is difficult to find good videos of the BLM protests, for an event that went global for a week or few YouTube is rather light on videos. But I found one [0] leaves me comfortable in assuming a similar scene happened at some point over the week in Minneapolis. It would have ben a very scary time to be a police officer, the burning of the vehicles from 2:28 to 4:00 for example looks a lot like a threat of violence. Those protesters wanted to hurt the police. The US has a pretty high tolerance for violence in its protests. If anything, I'd guess that rather than attitudes of the protestors the lack of police deaths in the BLM protests were because the police knew that they were going to be targeted with violence, and it caught them off guard coming from Trump supporters. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCPzQg3668g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCPzQg3668g PS. Also your video is a bit indistinct, I'm not sure it does show them beating a police officer who is on the ground
  - thewindowmovie5 6y ago
    I doubt you are going to convince the parent poster with facts. The comment suggests either the poster is not asking questions in good faith or letting opinions cloud the judgement. As one other comment mentioned - you are bringing facts to an emotional fight. If all the facts and evidence over past few years cannot convince them, nothing will.
- pbourke 6y ago
  > How many guns, bombs and zip ties? Good question. We don’t know the answer because federal authorities have not held a press briefing on this incident. > those that I've seen look like very poorly behaved tourists with souvenirs and selfies Perhaps you should watch this: https://www.instagram.com/p/CJxPQcXgq6H/ https://www.instagram.com/p/CJxPQcXgq6H/

roenxi 6y ago

> There were gallows, bombs, armour, zip ties and guns brought to the protest. How many guns, bombs and zip ties? Was it even enough protestors to be called a minority who bought bombs? The press would love a few photos of people with guns storming the capital, because those that I've seen look like very poorly behaved tourists with souvenirs and selfies. Gallows happen to be a traditional prop at protests (eg, [0]). > If they had found a senior official I don’t think they would have been safe. Nobody feels safe when a protest gets out of hand, but that doesn't make it a fact that the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th in the chain of command of the United states of America were about to be injured. It is entirely plausible that the mob would have screamed at them then been broken up. That is the most likely scenario. [0] https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/tommy-robinson-leads-brexit-betrayal-13709691 https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/tommy-robinson-leads-...

slg 6y ago
>How many guns, bombs and zip ties? Was it even enough protestors to be called a minority who bought bombs? Stop and take a second to listen to yourself. Is there an acceptable numbers of guns, bombs, and zip ties that are intended to be used on the leaders of this country?
- roenxi 6y ago
  No, there isn't. But there is also no reason to assume that a protestor with no gun, bomb or ziptie is equivalent to one that has one. Lone wolves and troublemakers out to get Congresspeople exist. There might be a few in the mob. But the mob itself isn't made up of people like that. This is the same logic that was being applied to protestors all through 2020. It is hard to get away from the BLM protests being peaceful even with burning buildings in the background.
  - slg 6y ago
    How many "lone wolves" do you see in this clip[1]? No one is saying that every member of that mob had intentions to kill. There is no doubt that some people in the mob did and they got shockingly close to having the opportunity to do it. [1] - https://twitter.com/CalebJHull/status/1348334770103660553 https://twitter.com/CalebJHull/status/1348334770103660553
    - roenxi 6y ago
      0. That looks like a mob fighting police. If there were a few more yellow vests it could be France. A few more chants of "All cops are bad" and it could be footage from 2020. There are no pipe bombs. No guns. They do not deploy zip ties.
      - slg 6y ago
        They are beating a police officer who is on the ground. Another officer was literally beaten to death. How many videos can you find of that happening during the BLM protests?
        roenxi 6y ago
        It is difficult to find good videos of the BLM protests, for an event that went global for a week or few YouTube is rather light on videos. But I found one [0] leaves me comfortable in assuming a similar scene happened at some point over the week in Minneapolis. It would have ben a very scary time to be a police officer, the burning of the vehicles from 2:28 to 4:00 for example looks a lot like a threat of violence. Those protesters wanted to hurt the police. The US has a pretty high tolerance for violence in its protests. If anything, I'd guess that rather than attitudes of the protestors the lack of police deaths in the BLM protests were because the police knew that they were going to be targeted with violence, and it caught them off guard coming from Trump supporters. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCPzQg3668g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCPzQg3668g PS. Also your video is a bit indistinct, I'm not sure it does show them beating a police officer who is on the ground
- thewindowmovie5 6y ago
  I doubt you are going to convince the parent poster with facts. The comment suggests either the poster is not asking questions in good faith or letting opinions cloud the judgement. As one other comment mentioned - you are bringing facts to an emotional fight. If all the facts and evidence over past few years cannot convince them, nothing will.
pbourke 6y ago
> How many guns, bombs and zip ties? Good question. We don’t know the answer because federal authorities have not held a press briefing on this incident. > those that I've seen look like very poorly behaved tourists with souvenirs and selfies Perhaps you should watch this: https://www.instagram.com/p/CJxPQcXgq6H/ https://www.instagram.com/p/CJxPQcXgq6H/