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> At some point the lies need to stop. Imagine that all the news agencies actually spread the lie. Imagine that for the next 4 years of Biden's presidency, th
by tenpies 6y ago
> At some point the lies need to stop.
Imagine that all the news agencies actually spread the lie. Imagine that for the next 4 years of Biden's presidency, they would talk non-stop about election fraud, how he's illegitimate, and how there needs to be an investigation. Imagine that the opposition party appointed a special investigator who's sole mission was to take down Biden by uncovering fraud.
Now imagine that after 4 years, it turned out that all the evidence for fraud was actually based on lies, opposition research, or fabricated dossiers. The investigation found some other issues - but nothing that could take down Biden. Turns out they tarnished the presidency for four years for no good reason. You think apologies would be in order right?
Yet that's exactly what the Russian collusion narrative was. A lie. A four year lie perpetrated by the Liberal media, the Democrats - including very prominent leaders who openly lied to people's faces - as well as some members of the intelligence agencies.
So why didn't those lies need to stop? How would Democrats react if they had to deal with 4 years of fraud investigations, #Resistance, #NotMyPresident?
And let me be clear, I think these will be remarkably similar events in a way that's going to look almost comical in hindsight.
Imagine the outrage Democrats would have had if instead of being investigated, the courts had simply dismissed the Russian collusion narrative? If they marched, looted, and rioted with the courts entertaining the investigation, how bad would it have gotten if the Republicans of 2016 acted like the Democrats of 2020?
- karlshea 6y ago> How would Democrats react if they had to deal with 4 years of fraud investigations, #Resistance, #NotMyPresident? I'm sorry, did you not live through the entire Obama presidency?
- sneak 6y agoI don't support either of those presidents, but the things you each describe are not comparable in scale or character, IMO. The asymmetry that GP describes is real, and everyone should be wary about the way politics are carried out now.
- karlshea 6y agoIf you don't think they're comparable in scale or character then I don't think you were actually paying attention.
- snapcore 6y ago"Yet that's exactly what the Russian collusion narrative was. A lie." That's false equivalency. There is 1000+ page report by the Republican led senate about Trump and Russia. It's highly suggestive that the senate was investigating him because of his and his associate ties with Russia. And Russia also interfered in the election to boot. No one knows the full truth yet and we may never know it. As opposed to the election fraud claims from 2020: they are just baseless accusations from Trump that have no evidence to warrant further investigation and got thrown out of every court. If they turn out to be legitimate concerns, I'm sure the senate will investigate them. BTW, most news media is overly dramatic regardless of which way it leans. https://apnews.com/article/ap-top-news-international-news-elections-politics-campaigns-5e833a62e9492f6a66624b7920cc846a https://apnews.com/article/ap-top-news-international-news-el...
- m8s 6y agoThis is the first line of the first paragraph of the Mueller Report: > The Russian government interfered in the 2016 presidential election in sweeping and systematic fashion. Evidence of Russian government operations began to surface in mid-2016. What part of this was a lie? https://www.npr.org/2019/04/18/708850903/read-the-full-mueller-report-with-redactions https://www.npr.org/2019/04/18/708850903/read-the-full-muell...
- abacadaba 6y agoIt was always clear that Putin was/is trying to interfere. Putin hating Hillary does not necessarily implicate Trump.