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Bedrock cultural events (or signs of them) should gratify anyone's intellectual curiosity. IMO we downplay them only because of fatigue and denial and even help

Bedrock cultural events (or signs of them) should gratify anyone's intellectual curiosity. IMO we downplay them only because of fatigue and denial and even helplessness. "Surely this is a one-off thing over one dumb podcast, not symptoms of a larger problem that I can avoid thinking about" or maybe "It's fine cuz I don't like that guy". And that's how we deathmarch into the next, for example, Holocaust. That said, I will admit that our comments sections sucks ass on these topics which is perhaps reason enough to avoid them. But that's a reason I accept unlike "lol it's just one dumb podcast cmon."

chordalkeyboard 6y ago
> I will admit that our comments sections sucks ass on these topics Please tell me where on the internet you can get better discussion on these topics than here? This is one of the few places where these things can even be discussed by people with opposing viewpoints without instantaneous flamewar apocalypse.
- oneeyedpigeon 6y ago
  They can suck ass here and still suck ass way more everywhere else. I concur that HN is pretty much the best place online for these discussions, that I'm aware of, but I also think these discussions are far inferior to what is typical here. There might even be some interesting points being made about the role of technology in all this, but they're being drowned out by the purely political back-and-forth.
  - chordalkeyboard 6y ago
    Sure, I would agree it sucks ass relative to what we can imagine. > these discussions are far inferior to what is typical here. Thats probably true, people here have political opinions and values but they aren't policy wonks. Perhaps there is (or could be) an hn equivalent for pols and wonks and they would have really invigorating discussions about policy and rarely flame each other because they were past that level. Then every so often someone would post something about programming a universal remote controller and they'd flame each other about technical topics and each others' ignorant opinions on how humans and machines interact. > There might even be some interesting points being made about the role of technology in all this, but they're being drowned out by the purely political back-and-forth. I'm just happy that people with different viewpoints are learning from each other. People with different viewpoints don't really learn from each other on most other platforms. They basically only learn to emulate the rhetorical jabs that score points.

chordalkeyboard 6y ago

> I will admit that our comments sections sucks ass on these topics Please tell me where on the internet you can get better discussion on these topics than here? This is one of the few places where these things can even be discussed by people with opposing viewpoints without instantaneous flamewar apocalypse.

oneeyedpigeon 6y ago
They can suck ass here and still suck ass way more everywhere else. I concur that HN is pretty much the best place online for these discussions, that I'm aware of, but I also think these discussions are far inferior to what is typical here. There might even be some interesting points being made about the role of technology in all this, but they're being drowned out by the purely political back-and-forth.
- chordalkeyboard 6y ago
  Sure, I would agree it sucks ass relative to what we can imagine. > these discussions are far inferior to what is typical here. Thats probably true, people here have political opinions and values but they aren't policy wonks. Perhaps there is (or could be) an hn equivalent for pols and wonks and they would have really invigorating discussions about policy and rarely flame each other because they were past that level. Then every so often someone would post something about programming a universal remote controller and they'd flame each other about technical topics and each others' ignorant opinions on how humans and machines interact. > There might even be some interesting points being made about the role of technology in all this, but they're being drowned out by the purely political back-and-forth. I'm just happy that people with different viewpoints are learning from each other. People with different viewpoints don't really learn from each other on most other platforms. They basically only learn to emulate the rhetorical jabs that score points.