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There’s still stuff coming out about this. 1) Bombs were left during the invasion. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fbi-50k-reward-pipe-bombs-capitol-riots-rnc-dnc

There’s still stuff coming out about this. 1) Bombs were left during the invasion. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fbi-50k-reward-pipe-bombs-capitol-riots-rnc-dnc/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fbi-50k-reward-pipe-bombs-capit... 2) Weapons were recovered. https://ktla.com/news/nationworld/13-arrested-5-weapons-recovered-at-u-s-capitol-riot/ https://ktla.com/news/nationworld/13-arrested-5-weapons-reco... That’s weapons recovered. How many more were carrying?

o-__-o 6y ago
So because some people at the entire rally were armed means everyone storming the capitol was also armed? I’ve heard that very same bad statistics argument used as to why trump lost the election. Causation != correlation. I did not see any overt firearms or weapons on the people storming the capitol building. It will be hard, because it goes against your beliefs.. but I challenge you to find those armed people in the various live streams that captured the event.
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- wilsynet 6y ago
  I don’t have any beliefs about this. A violent mob invaded the capital. Some of them carried weapons. I’m not claiming they were all armed or that they were filmed using the weapons. Although they certainly did attack police officers. With flag poles, ladders, fire extinguishers, pepper spray. I’ll leave it there.
  - o-__-o 6y ago
    There were three separate bonfires in DC in May. In that case, DC was also burning back then from angry mobs of protesters. My point is the narrative. Take a step back and observe and claim the wrong done by both parties instead of saying one is right and one is wrong.
    - AaronFriel 6y ago
      My god, bonfires?
      - markdown 6y ago
        I heard that those black people had the audacity to burn WHITE(!!) fluffy confectionery over those bonfires!!
        xenoph0n 6y ago
        how about when they had the audacity to rob, murder and loot across the country throughout 2020?
    - wilsynet 6y ago
      With all due respect, you don’t know anything about me. When BLM protestors burn down a Footlocker, I say they did something wrong. But I also don’t assume that all BLM protestors are violent. And I don’t assume all Republicans are violent. But all the people who invaded the capitol? They all invaded the capitol. Let’s be clear about that.
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  - jacquesm 6y ago
    And killed a police officer. By beating him to death. With American flags and a fire extinguisher. They were still beating him long after he was down.
    - o-__-o 6y ago
      Yup, and DC was also on fire, nearly burned down by reckless protesters in May! Maybe we should have a larger police presence in our nations capitol to prevent all these insurrections?
      - Gibbon1 6y ago
        Left wing protests always follow a long worn script that doesn't include murdering police officers.
        xenoph0n 6y ago
        dozens of people have been murdered during left wing protests during the last year, which have included many violent clashes with police. A police officer could very easily have been killed.
      - jacquesm 6y ago
        A bunch of people just invaded your seat of government, killed an officer, quite possibly had much worse plans than what they actually did which only barely got avoided because the elected representatives got to safety and a suicide bomber just blew up half an office block and you are going on about bonfires in this thread as though there is some kind of equivalency. And all that before we're getting into why they did all that: a pack of lies versus many many decades of actual oppression. Stop already and re-calibrate your sense of what is normal and what isn't, because if you don't you are at risk of becoming part of the problem. This thread is about the youtube channel of one of the instigators of this insane action against your elected officials being banned. The BLM riots - which certainly had bad aspects - are off-topic and any attempt to drag them in here is simply whataboutism.
      - wilsynet 6y ago
- 8note 6y ago
  For the people who did not storm the capitol building, sure, but a lot of jurisdictions have laws where everyone involved is responsible for the worst that the group does, so getaway drivers don't get off Scott free if one of their mates murders somebody during a robbery. If there was somebody armed during this crime, they should all be held responsible for it
  - perl4ever 6y ago
    Aka "felony murder". I am not a lawyer, but as I understand it, in some circumstances, a group of people that commit a felony during which someone dies, can all be charged with murder, even if none of them intended to kill and only one of them actually did. This is kind of controversial and not the case in all jurisdictions.
wilsynet 6y ago
Also there’s this: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/10/us/politics/capitol-arrests.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/10/us/politics/capitol-arres... Jake Angeli carried a spear. Several weapons recovered from Eric Munchel.
- jansan 6y ago
  >Jake Angeli carried a spear. I honestly cannot tell if you are being sarcastic here.
  - tempestn 6y ago
    He literally was carrying a spear with a flag tied to it. And if you're implying that a spear isn't a real weapon, the officer who died was beaten with a flag and a fire extinguisher, so I'd say a spear is dangerous enough.
    - xenoph0n 6y ago
      You people really are just staggeringly dishonest. You know very well that "armed attack" or "armed insurrection" in relation to attacks on the government refers to people with guns. (i.e. people intending to engage government forces in armed conflict) FFS if they'd shown up with muskets dressed as revolutionary war soldiers people like you would be saying it was a "gun wielding attack" or something.

o-__-o 6y ago

So because some people at the entire rally were armed means everyone storming the capitol was also armed? I’ve heard that very same bad statistics argument used as to why trump lost the election. Causation != correlation. I did not see any overt firearms or weapons on the people storming the capitol building. It will be hard, because it goes against your beliefs.. but I challenge you to find those armed people in the various live streams that captured the event.

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wilsynet 6y ago
I don’t have any beliefs about this. A violent mob invaded the capital. Some of them carried weapons. I’m not claiming they were all armed or that they were filmed using the weapons. Although they certainly did attack police officers. With flag poles, ladders, fire extinguishers, pepper spray. I’ll leave it there.
- o-__-o 6y ago
  There were three separate bonfires in DC in May. In that case, DC was also burning back then from angry mobs of protesters. My point is the narrative. Take a step back and observe and claim the wrong done by both parties instead of saying one is right and one is wrong.
  - AaronFriel 6y ago
    My god, bonfires?
    - markdown 6y ago
      I heard that those black people had the audacity to burn WHITE(!!) fluffy confectionery over those bonfires!!
      - xenoph0n 6y ago
        how about when they had the audacity to rob, murder and loot across the country throughout 2020?
  - wilsynet 6y ago
    With all due respect, you don’t know anything about me. When BLM protestors burn down a Footlocker, I say they did something wrong. But I also don’t assume that all BLM protestors are violent. And I don’t assume all Republicans are violent. But all the people who invaded the capitol? They all invaded the capitol. Let’s be clear about that.
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- jacquesm 6y ago
  And killed a police officer. By beating him to death. With American flags and a fire extinguisher. They were still beating him long after he was down.
  - o-__-o 6y ago
    Yup, and DC was also on fire, nearly burned down by reckless protesters in May! Maybe we should have a larger police presence in our nations capitol to prevent all these insurrections?
    - Gibbon1 6y ago
      Left wing protests always follow a long worn script that doesn't include murdering police officers.
      - xenoph0n 6y ago
        dozens of people have been murdered during left wing protests during the last year, which have included many violent clashes with police. A police officer could very easily have been killed.
    - jacquesm 6y ago
      A bunch of people just invaded your seat of government, killed an officer, quite possibly had much worse plans than what they actually did which only barely got avoided because the elected representatives got to safety and a suicide bomber just blew up half an office block and you are going on about bonfires in this thread as though there is some kind of equivalency. And all that before we're getting into why they did all that: a pack of lies versus many many decades of actual oppression. Stop already and re-calibrate your sense of what is normal and what isn't, because if you don't you are at risk of becoming part of the problem. This thread is about the youtube channel of one of the instigators of this insane action against your elected officials being banned. The BLM riots - which certainly had bad aspects - are off-topic and any attempt to drag them in here is simply whataboutism.
    - wilsynet 6y ago
8note 6y ago
For the people who did not storm the capitol building, sure, but a lot of jurisdictions have laws where everyone involved is responsible for the worst that the group does, so getaway drivers don't get off Scott free if one of their mates murders somebody during a robbery. If there was somebody armed during this crime, they should all be held responsible for it
- perl4ever 6y ago
  Aka "felony murder". I am not a lawyer, but as I understand it, in some circumstances, a group of people that commit a felony during which someone dies, can all be charged with murder, even if none of them intended to kill and only one of them actually did. This is kind of controversial and not the case in all jurisdictions.

wilsynet 6y ago

Also there’s this: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/10/us/politics/capitol-arrests.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/10/us/politics/capitol-arres... Jake Angeli carried a spear. Several weapons recovered from Eric Munchel.

jansan 6y ago
>Jake Angeli carried a spear. I honestly cannot tell if you are being sarcastic here.
- tempestn 6y ago
  He literally was carrying a spear with a flag tied to it. And if you're implying that a spear isn't a real weapon, the officer who died was beaten with a flag and a fire extinguisher, so I'd say a spear is dangerous enough.
  - xenoph0n 6y ago
    You people really are just staggeringly dishonest. You know very well that "armed attack" or "armed insurrection" in relation to attacks on the government refers to people with guns. (i.e. people intending to engage government forces in armed conflict) FFS if they'd shown up with muskets dressed as revolutionary war soldiers people like you would be saying it was a "gun wielding attack" or something.