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On that note, what specifically from Trump’s speech was inciting violence? “March” != “Riot” This is the section about marching to the Capitol. “ And we're go
by nelsondev 6y ago
On that note, what specifically from Trump’s speech was inciting violence? “March” != “Riot”
This is the section about marching to the Capitol.
“ And we're going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women and we're probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them.
Because you'll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength and you have to be strong.
We have come to demand that Congress do the right thing and only count the electors who have been lawfully slated. Lawfully slated.
I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard. Today, we will see whether Republicans stand strong for integrity of our elections. But whether or not they stand strong for our country, our country. Our country has been under siege for a long time. Far longer than this four year period.”
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Full text of his speech (rambling and painful to read, but there was no advocating for violence: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-told-supporters-stormed-capitol-hill/story?id=75110558 https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-told-supporters-storme...
- mushbino 6y agoRudy: "Let's have trial by combat" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5FfcbpVLNo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5FfcbpVLNo Trump: The entirety of this speech, but specifically the "fight like hell" part: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjYh4tIhVi4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjYh4tIhVi4 Trump: "Be there, it will be wild": https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/06/us/politics/capitol-mob-trump-supporters.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/06/us/politics/capitol-mob-t... This article covers a lot of it too. It's been stoked for a while: https://fortune.com/2021/01/07/trump-speech-capitol-attack-riots-pence-we-will-never-concede-maga-rally/ https://fortune.com/2021/01/07/trump-speech-capitol-attack-r...
- lliamander 6y agoAll figurative language that politicians (and non-politicians) use all the time. Joe Biden literally expressed a desire to physically harm the President, and dramatic, ecstatic portrayals of his death have been shared for his entire presidency.
- mushbino 6y agoIt's looking like there might be a trial in the senate so we'll see if the "figurative language" argument holds up. Trump telling the rioters "I love you" after they stormed the capitol doesn't look too good in that regard. Comparing what you're saying about democrats and Biden to what the president has been saying for years and all of the talk on facebook, twitter, r/thedonald, Parler, and Gab is being willfully ignorant. The results speak for themselves.
- lliamander 6y agoHe said "I love you" in order to connect emotionally with the crowd as part of a message to tell them to go home. It's also just how he speaks to his supporters. He's not telling them that his loves them for having stormed the capitol. You are engaging in the most disingenuous interpretations of his words. And there is no willful ingorance here. I know the things said by randos on r/thedonald can often be pretty horrendous. There are horrendous randos everywhere. Just look at r/politics. The things people in power have said about Trump and his supporters is also quite terrible, and the fact that they have power makes it worse. The ignorance is yours.
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- itronitron 6y agoThank you for posting a link to the full text of Trump's speech. Consider this section from the last paragraph... "the Democrats are hopeless, they are never voting for anything, not even one vote"
- blueflame7 6y agoThe didn't. Democrats never break rank. Ever.