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Sorry, but no. CNN, MSNBC, etc are far from perfect, but let's not pretend that "both sides are as bad as each other". Fox (to say nothing of the absolute swam

Sorry, but no. CNN, MSNBC, etc are far from perfect, but let's not pretend that "both sides are as bad as each other". Fox (to say nothing of the absolute swamp that is OANN or Newsmax) are an order of magnitude worse than the so called "left" channels (only in the US would CNN be considered a left wing news channel). The reason that CNN, etc are "biased" against Trump is because reality is bisaed against Trump. He's just a terrible president, a lousy business man and an awful human. Again, only in the US would that be considered a controversial statement.

loopz 6y ago
Just consider the birther gaslighting, or everything else.
- Noos 6y ago
  people forget the dominionist gaslighting of Sarah Palin. Pretty much every republican is seen as mini hitler these days-the shit that was said about George Bush Jr for example.
  - loopz 6y ago
    The criticisms of those people were about what they said and did though, not who they are. That is not gaslighting but speaking back at power.
manigandham 6y ago
"Only in the US" is only what matters when discussing US politics. Who cares what a news channel is considered in some other country? And yes, all the news channels are equally terrible. This is not at all hard to find, but it may be hard to accept.
- cgrealy 6y ago
  > “Only in the US" is only what matters when discussing US politics. And only in the US would someone be so insular as to make such a statement :) The US is still the largest economy in the world. As much as the rest of us would love to turn a blind eye when they elect an incompetent sociopath, unfortunately, we have to deal with his bullshit.
  - manigandham 6y ago
    We're not discussing foreign policy but domestic politics and media as they are within the US. How the rest of the world judges them isn't relevant, and would be the same as someone in the US talking about how things are going in Zimbabwe as they look to us here. The rest of the world is not a single monolithic group either so I don't see the point of your sweeping generalizations.
    - andybak 6y ago
      Because sometimes you need the persepective of an outsider to point out how completely crazy you've become. signed, A Brit.
    - cgrealy 6y ago
      > How the rest of the world judges them isn't relevant, and would be the same as someone in the US talking about how things are going in Zimbabwe as they look to us here. Nonsense. Of course, people’s opinion of internal politics is relevant. If it wasn’t, we’d still have apartheid in South Africa, for example. And no, the rest of the world is not a single monolithic group, but the vast majority of it (especially in comparable western democracies) thinks trump is a laughing stock.
vixen99 6y ago
Brilliant summary. Let's not pretend it isn't. Everybody would agree that it was cogent, persuasive and utterly compelling. Good to be know what world outside the US thinks and I like the cherry on top: 'reality is biased against Trump'.

loopz 6y ago

Just consider the birther gaslighting, or everything else.

Noos 6y ago
people forget the dominionist gaslighting of Sarah Palin. Pretty much every republican is seen as mini hitler these days-the shit that was said about George Bush Jr for example.
- loopz 6y ago
  The criticisms of those people were about what they said and did though, not who they are. That is not gaslighting but speaking back at power.

manigandham 6y ago

"Only in the US" is only what matters when discussing US politics. Who cares what a news channel is considered in some other country? And yes, all the news channels are equally terrible. This is not at all hard to find, but it may be hard to accept.

cgrealy 6y ago
> “Only in the US" is only what matters when discussing US politics. And only in the US would someone be so insular as to make such a statement :) The US is still the largest economy in the world. As much as the rest of us would love to turn a blind eye when they elect an incompetent sociopath, unfortunately, we have to deal with his bullshit.
- manigandham 6y ago
  We're not discussing foreign policy but domestic politics and media as they are within the US. How the rest of the world judges them isn't relevant, and would be the same as someone in the US talking about how things are going in Zimbabwe as they look to us here. The rest of the world is not a single monolithic group either so I don't see the point of your sweeping generalizations.
  - andybak 6y ago
    Because sometimes you need the persepective of an outsider to point out how completely crazy you've become. signed, A Brit.
  - cgrealy 6y ago
    > How the rest of the world judges them isn't relevant, and would be the same as someone in the US talking about how things are going in Zimbabwe as they look to us here. Nonsense. Of course, people’s opinion of internal politics is relevant. If it wasn’t, we’d still have apartheid in South Africa, for example. And no, the rest of the world is not a single monolithic group, but the vast majority of it (especially in comparable western democracies) thinks trump is a laughing stock.

vixen99 6y ago

Brilliant summary. Let's not pretend it isn't. Everybody would agree that it was cogent, persuasive and utterly compelling. Good to be know what world outside the US thinks and I like the cherry on top: 'reality is biased against Trump'.