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That is precisely what IPFS and ETH domains are for: https://docs.ipfs.io/how-to/websites-on-ipfs/link-a-domain/#ethereum-naming-service-ens https://docs.ipfs.

That is precisely what IPFS and ETH domains are for: https://docs.ipfs.io/how-to/websites-on-ipfs/link-a-domain/#ethereum-naming-service-ens https://docs.ipfs.io/how-to/websites-on-ipfs/link-a-domain/#... I don't want this to sound wrong, but I perceive most of the people complaining about censorship to be hypocrites. They'd be the first to censor if they were in charge of these platforms. They are some of the first to ban in moderated communities like reddit. The reason they're upset is because they are not in control. I think in some ways they are like the people scared of change, and the once change has taken place they are scared of not being in control.

LarvaFX 6y ago
Well said. Thank you.
grep_name 6y ago
> I don't want this to sound wrong, but I perceive most of the people complaining about censorship to be hypocrites. They'd be the first to censor if they were in charge of these platforms. They are some of the first to ban in moderated communities like reddit. Based on what? I and many people I'm close to in real life are constantly concerned about these escalating erosions of expression and all prefer the less-moderated corners of the internet. None of us have ever sought out control and grew up consistently annoyed at one-sided media outlets, even if they represented the perspective we happened to agree with at the time. If we still use reddit (most of us are falling off), it tends to be a small subset of niche communities that don't focus on meta-politics or have auto-banning protocols. These are the people I see complaining about this around me. Is it just because I'm not on twitter?
- osgovernment 6y ago
  r/conservative r/conspiracy r/donaldtrump all come to mind as communities that (up until one was recently banned) complained about censorship while constantly banning users for providing debate. Heck, I signed up for Gab and was almost immediately banned from the entire site after sharing my liberal opinion.
  - grep_name 6y ago
    Interesting, I guess we're just talking about different populations of 'people complaining about censorship.' I never spend time on forums whose main stated purpose is political discussion but still hear a lot of discussion about censorship in my daily life, so I don't really jump to gab, r/conspiracy, r/donaldtrump, etc when I hear that phrase. I don't think I'd characterize those places as being the majority of people concerned about corporate censorship, though
malwrar 6y ago
> I don't want this to sound wrong, but I perceive most of the people complaining about censorship to be hypocrites. They'd be the first to censor if they were in charge of these platforms. > The reason they're upset is because they are not in control. Do you notice how that starts me, as someone who is firmly anti-censorship, off on the defensive as you seem to view me as an insincere or stupid bad guy? > I think in some ways they are like the people scared of change, and the once change has taken place they are scared of not being in control. As a general principle I’m for the idea that we aught to allow free expression of ideas, especially online since that is the way to share ideas. Life happens very differently for people even just domestically in the US, and when our viewpoints come into conflict I’d rather understand what they have to say and talk about it. How is that possible to do when there’s a party in the middle that is able to determine what you’re not allowed to read? I'm scared of not being in control of that and thus censorship in general, not about having my version of truth be published.
- osgovernment 6y ago
  > Do you notice how that starts me, as someone who is firmly anti-censorship, off on the defensive as you seem to view me as an insincere or stupid bad guy? Please note that I said most, not all of people are like that. I am anti-censorship too. I'm not offended by the idea that Twitter is a business and is allowed to choose who they conduct business with. I at least understand if you want to make something anti-censorship, then you need to plan ahead to make it difficult to censor. This means if I create a platform for free speech, that I'm not going to put all my eggs into one basket and hope for the best. No where did Twitter ever claim to be the platform of anti-censorship. I believe being anti-censorship is more of an ideology that requires action. As a Linux user, I'd personally find it odd to see someone claim to be anti-censorship while using Windows or Mac. Both of which IMO are built on the centralization of ideas, and limit expression to proprietary platforms. I think the idea of anti-censorship is great, but that it is something that needs built through software and tools by people that believe in the concept, not by having the government regulate companies to force it into being.

LarvaFX 6y ago

Well said. Thank you.

grep_name 6y ago

> I don't want this to sound wrong, but I perceive most of the people complaining about censorship to be hypocrites. They'd be the first to censor if they were in charge of these platforms. They are some of the first to ban in moderated communities like reddit. Based on what? I and many people I'm close to in real life are constantly concerned about these escalating erosions of expression and all prefer the less-moderated corners of the internet. None of us have ever sought out control and grew up consistently annoyed at one-sided media outlets, even if they represented the perspective we happened to agree with at the time. If we still use reddit (most of us are falling off), it tends to be a small subset of niche communities that don't focus on meta-politics or have auto-banning protocols. These are the people I see complaining about this around me. Is it just because I'm not on twitter?

osgovernment 6y ago
r/conservative r/conspiracy r/donaldtrump all come to mind as communities that (up until one was recently banned) complained about censorship while constantly banning users for providing debate. Heck, I signed up for Gab and was almost immediately banned from the entire site after sharing my liberal opinion.
- grep_name 6y ago
  Interesting, I guess we're just talking about different populations of 'people complaining about censorship.' I never spend time on forums whose main stated purpose is political discussion but still hear a lot of discussion about censorship in my daily life, so I don't really jump to gab, r/conspiracy, r/donaldtrump, etc when I hear that phrase. I don't think I'd characterize those places as being the majority of people concerned about corporate censorship, though

malwrar 6y ago

> I don't want this to sound wrong, but I perceive most of the people complaining about censorship to be hypocrites. They'd be the first to censor if they were in charge of these platforms. > The reason they're upset is because they are not in control. Do you notice how that starts me, as someone who is firmly anti-censorship, off on the defensive as you seem to view me as an insincere or stupid bad guy? > I think in some ways they are like the people scared of change, and the once change has taken place they are scared of not being in control. As a general principle I’m for the idea that we aught to allow free expression of ideas, especially online since that is the way to share ideas. Life happens very differently for people even just domestically in the US, and when our viewpoints come into conflict I’d rather understand what they have to say and talk about it. How is that possible to do when there’s a party in the middle that is able to determine what you’re not allowed to read? I'm scared of not being in control of that and thus censorship in general, not about having my version of truth be published.

osgovernment 6y ago
> Do you notice how that starts me, as someone who is firmly anti-censorship, off on the defensive as you seem to view me as an insincere or stupid bad guy? Please note that I said most, not all of people are like that. I am anti-censorship too. I'm not offended by the idea that Twitter is a business and is allowed to choose who they conduct business with. I at least understand if you want to make something anti-censorship, then you need to plan ahead to make it difficult to censor. This means if I create a platform for free speech, that I'm not going to put all my eggs into one basket and hope for the best. No where did Twitter ever claim to be the platform of anti-censorship. I believe being anti-censorship is more of an ideology that requires action. As a Linux user, I'd personally find it odd to see someone claim to be anti-censorship while using Windows or Mac. Both of which IMO are built on the centralization of ideas, and limit expression to proprietary platforms. I think the idea of anti-censorship is great, but that it is something that needs built through software and tools by people that believe in the concept, not by having the government regulate companies to force it into being.