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What interesting is how all these company act in the same way, why don't some company/platform took the opportunity to act the opposite to differentiate themsel
by matz1 6y ago
What interesting is how all these company act in the same way, why don't some company/platform took the opportunity to act the opposite to differentiate themselves ? I believe there is still large enough market for people who oppose this silencing.
- AI_WAIFU 6y agoIsn't that exactly what Parler is doing? The reason it doesn't work is because network effects and collective action make businesses that try uncompetitive. Go against the grain and all of a sudden everyone you were trading with that made your business feasible drops you. If any other businesses try to support you in their place, they'll also be singled out and get the same treatment.
- notadev 6y agoBecause all of their workers are coordinating these actions with one another. That also explains why most of the comments around these political issues have tons of absurd pro-censorship stances on places like HN. They're the same people.
- rainyMammoth 6y agointerestingly I have had private chats with some Silicon Valley tech workers lately that find those bans and censorship repulsive but are too afraid to state this publicly. I'm wondering if this is not the result of the ultra loud vocal minority once again?
- matz1 6y agoIf that true then they kind a deserve it, when the majority didn't use their number as strength to do something but it then they deserve to lose.
- busterarm 6y agoThe problem is that the pro-censorship crowd is openly using the internal open communication channels with full support and engagement from both HR and upper management. Having numbers doesn't equate to having equal or greater power.
- greatgirl 6y agoOr... competition responds to other competition. If your competition fires 50 employees, you no longer have the pressure to keep an extra 50 employees just to compete with them. Same principle here, that's why all these bans are happening together.
- casefields 6y agoIt's also because the old guard is no longer in control influential. The early internet was very libertarian, which included you're ACLU-left wing and right wing versions. Both of which hold free speech as one of our greatest strengths.
- MrMan 6y agoLibertarianism as I see it practiced by my rich friends and acquaintances is very much the corporate kind, and never the anarchic kind. This forum has been a place for corporate Libertarianism to flourish, and I have been here for a few years even though I am not the kind of user who gets alot of karma. I have never seen any very popular anarcho-libertarianism here, because it is not very profitable.
- grzm 6y agoThe firms are responding to the same events and pressures in similar ways. It doesn't require coordination or conspiracy to explain that. You're right that there's likely opportunity for some disruptive differentiation. That often comes from the outside rather than established companies, and also we tend to hear about the few successful disrupters and not the many, many more failures.
- matz1 6y agoI certainly hope we can see some disruptor come out from this. People been saying google/fb/apple is too big to compete, to me this seem like golden opportunity.
- im3w1l 6y agoFrom a naive game theorethic perspective, a cartel should not be stable. But if we look deeper we see that big tech has methods of punishing defectors, methods of punishing companies that "differentiate".