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> The mob has been coming for law enforcement and federal buildings in many major cities in America for nine months now They're "coming for" police reform and

> The mob has been coming for law enforcement and federal buildings in many major cities in America for nine months now They're "coming for" police reform and transparency. Please don't misrepresent or generalise very disparate groups of demonstrators.

casefields 6y ago
Just like the handful of crazies the other day, you don't get to wash your hands of your bad elements. Imagine if this was the scene at the capital: https://youtu.be/c8j3h7fuYsY https://youtu.be/c8j3h7fuYsY
adnzzzzZ 6y ago
Capitol protestors were "coming for" election transparency. Please don't misrepresent or generalise very disparate groups of demonstrators.
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kuzimoto 6y ago
So the ends justify the means? Only certain ideas are allowed for mobs to be okay?
- Tokkemon 6y ago
  The mobs were not comparable.
  - kuzimoto 6y ago
    Does it matter? Isn't a mob a mob?
- koolba 6y ago
  Many governors said as much this past year when they allowed, and in many cases took part in, BLM protests but banned anti-lockdown ones.
  - kuzimoto 6y ago
    Yes, incredibly frustrating. Lots of the media played along with it as well.
- hackmiester 6y ago
  That is correct. It is okay to rally against police brutality; it is not okay to hold a Nazi rally.
chrissnell 6y ago
Misrepresent? If anything, I underrepresented what is happening. These mobs have been literally launching explosive mortars at the police, throwing Molotov cocktails at them, along with urine, feces, and God knows what else. Antifa isn’t out for reform, they are out for mayhem, which they continue to organize on social media with the tacit cooperation of the same companies that ban conservatives on extremely flimsy grounds.
- Tokkemon 6y ago
  Antifa's not an organized thing like you keep saying it is. The Proud Boys, on the other hand...
  - JarlUlvi 6y ago
    The videos of massive numbers of bricks being thrown at the Chicago cops, the expose on Rose City Antifa, and the murder of antifa opponents complete with film crews and diversions say otherwise.
  - cltby 6y ago
    > not an organized thing Do self-identified Antifa just spontaneously and simultaneously decide to engage in identical acts violence? Is there some remarkably prominent commie Schelling point us outsiders aren’t privy to?
    - DaiPlusPlus 6y ago
      It's more like how "Anonymous" was in the 2008 Scientology demonstrations. Just buy a _V-for-Vendetta_ Guy Fawkes mask and you're in. Wanna be in Antifa? Just go to a demonstration and hang-out with other people who simply look like they're in Antifa - though that doesn't give anyone permission to fight or act aggressively: there is a degree of mutual-acknowledgement amongst "members": if someone acts aggressively or fights on the offensive (as opposed to fighting defensively against other people who were aggressors[1]) then you wont' find many future allies to witness in your defence in court. [1] Yes, I'm aware of how murky that sounds.
  - 6y ago
skoopie 6y ago
I love it when people try to gaslight us like we haven't seen the shit that happened last year. The capitol building "coup" was like watching a kids bop version of BLM/antifa.
syshum 6y ago
So they did not fire bomb various police stations? Torch Businesses that refused to put up signs in support of their movements? Attack people in the street pulling them out of their cars and beating them? Literally stalk a man in the streets to execute him? None of those things happened? That is your position?

casefields 6y ago

Just like the handful of crazies the other day, you don't get to wash your hands of your bad elements. Imagine if this was the scene at the capital: https://youtu.be/c8j3h7fuYsY https://youtu.be/c8j3h7fuYsY

adnzzzzZ 6y ago

Capitol protestors were "coming for" election transparency. Please don't misrepresent or generalise very disparate groups of demonstrators.

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kuzimoto 6y ago

So the ends justify the means? Only certain ideas are allowed for mobs to be okay?

Tokkemon 6y ago
The mobs were not comparable.
- kuzimoto 6y ago
  Does it matter? Isn't a mob a mob?
koolba 6y ago
Many governors said as much this past year when they allowed, and in many cases took part in, BLM protests but banned anti-lockdown ones.
- kuzimoto 6y ago
  Yes, incredibly frustrating. Lots of the media played along with it as well.
hackmiester 6y ago
That is correct. It is okay to rally against police brutality; it is not okay to hold a Nazi rally.

chrissnell 6y ago

Misrepresent? If anything, I underrepresented what is happening. These mobs have been literally launching explosive mortars at the police, throwing Molotov cocktails at them, along with urine, feces, and God knows what else. Antifa isn’t out for reform, they are out for mayhem, which they continue to organize on social media with the tacit cooperation of the same companies that ban conservatives on extremely flimsy grounds.

Tokkemon 6y ago
Antifa's not an organized thing like you keep saying it is. The Proud Boys, on the other hand...
- JarlUlvi 6y ago
  The videos of massive numbers of bricks being thrown at the Chicago cops, the expose on Rose City Antifa, and the murder of antifa opponents complete with film crews and diversions say otherwise.
- cltby 6y ago
  > not an organized thing Do self-identified Antifa just spontaneously and simultaneously decide to engage in identical acts violence? Is there some remarkably prominent commie Schelling point us outsiders aren’t privy to?
  - DaiPlusPlus 6y ago
    It's more like how "Anonymous" was in the 2008 Scientology demonstrations. Just buy a _V-for-Vendetta_ Guy Fawkes mask and you're in. Wanna be in Antifa? Just go to a demonstration and hang-out with other people who simply look like they're in Antifa - though that doesn't give anyone permission to fight or act aggressively: there is a degree of mutual-acknowledgement amongst "members": if someone acts aggressively or fights on the offensive (as opposed to fighting defensively against other people who were aggressors[1]) then you wont' find many future allies to witness in your defence in court. [1] Yes, I'm aware of how murky that sounds.
- 6y ago

skoopie 6y ago

I love it when people try to gaslight us like we haven't seen the shit that happened last year. The capitol building "coup" was like watching a kids bop version of BLM/antifa.

syshum 6y ago

So they did not fire bomb various police stations? Torch Businesses that refused to put up signs in support of their movements? Attack people in the street pulling them out of their cars and beating them? Literally stalk a man in the streets to execute him? None of those things happened? That is your position?