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Spare us your outrage. A literal mob just overran the Capitol. Attempting to talk about “the mob” in opposition to the actual mobs that are continuing to take o

Spare us your outrage. A literal mob just overran the Capitol. Attempting to talk about “the mob” in opposition to the actual mobs that are continuing to take over Capitol buildings is frankly so tone deaf it’s almost insulting to our intelligence.

logicslave 6y ago
Keep supporting these censorship policies and see what happens. "Give me liberty or give me death"
incrudible 6y ago
Spare us your hypocrisy. A literal mob took over parts of Seattle and several government buildings. Hundreds of buildings have been burned or looted in the past year during protests. People were killed in the process. Did anybody think to deplatform the Biden campaign? No, we did not - and rightly so. We accepted their condemnation of violence just as we should accept that of Trump and his campaign.
- ashtonkem 6y ago
  Biden decried the violence in Seattle. Trump encouraged this riot, and may have even purposefully slowed down the authorization to send in the National Guard. You don’t get to call me a hypocrite based on stuff you’ve made up.
  - incrudible 6y ago
    As a matter of fact, Trump called the rioters back and later condemned them strongly.
  - yetanother5 6y ago
    Trump didn’t encourage any rioting. Stop making stuff up. He Tweeted everyone saying to be peaceful and go home. Twitter censored those Tweets. Presumably to fit the narrative you have swallowed.
  - incrudible 6y ago
    What did I make up?
37rudydyeh 6y ago
A literal mob tore apart my city's downtown and looted many of the independently owned businesses and yet it was somehow considered bigoted back then to not continue talking with the mob.
greatgirl 6y ago
I'm tired of people who have only read one book in their entire lives (1984) trying to explain to me how banning Trump is going to lead to an angry leftist mob throwing me in jail (because leftists have power right?) for speaking.
- incrudible 6y ago
  It might just as well lead to an angry right wing mob throwing you in jail, because you have given up fundamental principles for short term political expedience. Twitter is currently suspending lots of left wingers, in order to maintain a semblance of neutrality. Once you allow deplatforming as an acceptable tool, do not be surprised when it gets used against you.
- ashtonkem 6y ago
  Poor Orwell must be rolling in his grave. Maybe we should wrap him in copper for free power? For the record, Orwell was a leftist. Yes, 1984 was a warning about the USSR, which he hated, but the idea that he was warning about creeping leftism in general turning into authoritarianism is to really misunderstand him. For the record, he hated the authoritarian right just as hard as he hated the authoritarian left, possibly more so. He participated in the Spanish civil war, following his own advice that everyone pick up a rifle and shoot a fascist. He was wounded in action by a sniper bullet to the throat. By the terms of his place and time, he considered himself a libertarian (that word later came to be a right wing phenomenon in America, self consciously co-opted from the left). We’d typically call him a democratic socialist; someone who wanted the government to help solve the “social problem” (where the term “socialism” partially comes from) of poverty and what not, but he was also wary about giving too much power of the government to control people. He was a complex guy with even more complex political opinions. Sadly our Cold War fueled reading of 1984 has flattened out a lot of his nuance from him.

logicslave 6y ago

Keep supporting these censorship policies and see what happens. "Give me liberty or give me death"

incrudible 6y ago

Spare us your hypocrisy. A literal mob took over parts of Seattle and several government buildings. Hundreds of buildings have been burned or looted in the past year during protests. People were killed in the process. Did anybody think to deplatform the Biden campaign? No, we did not - and rightly so. We accepted their condemnation of violence just as we should accept that of Trump and his campaign.

ashtonkem 6y ago
Biden decried the violence in Seattle. Trump encouraged this riot, and may have even purposefully slowed down the authorization to send in the National Guard. You don’t get to call me a hypocrite based on stuff you’ve made up.
- incrudible 6y ago
  As a matter of fact, Trump called the rioters back and later condemned them strongly.
- yetanother5 6y ago
  Trump didn’t encourage any rioting. Stop making stuff up. He Tweeted everyone saying to be peaceful and go home. Twitter censored those Tweets. Presumably to fit the narrative you have swallowed.
- incrudible 6y ago
  What did I make up?

37rudydyeh 6y ago

A literal mob tore apart my city's downtown and looted many of the independently owned businesses and yet it was somehow considered bigoted back then to not continue talking with the mob.

greatgirl 6y ago

I'm tired of people who have only read one book in their entire lives (1984) trying to explain to me how banning Trump is going to lead to an angry leftist mob throwing me in jail (because leftists have power right?) for speaking.

incrudible 6y ago
It might just as well lead to an angry right wing mob throwing you in jail, because you have given up fundamental principles for short term political expedience. Twitter is currently suspending lots of left wingers, in order to maintain a semblance of neutrality. Once you allow deplatforming as an acceptable tool, do not be surprised when it gets used against you.
ashtonkem 6y ago
Poor Orwell must be rolling in his grave. Maybe we should wrap him in copper for free power? For the record, Orwell was a leftist. Yes, 1984 was a warning about the USSR, which he hated, but the idea that he was warning about creeping leftism in general turning into authoritarianism is to really misunderstand him. For the record, he hated the authoritarian right just as hard as he hated the authoritarian left, possibly more so. He participated in the Spanish civil war, following his own advice that everyone pick up a rifle and shoot a fascist. He was wounded in action by a sniper bullet to the throat. By the terms of his place and time, he considered himself a libertarian (that word later came to be a right wing phenomenon in America, self consciously co-opted from the left). We’d typically call him a democratic socialist; someone who wanted the government to help solve the “social problem” (where the term “socialism” partially comes from) of poverty and what not, but he was also wary about giving too much power of the government to control people. He was a complex guy with even more complex political opinions. Sadly our Cold War fueled reading of 1984 has flattened out a lot of his nuance from him.