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wikileaks was mainly attacked through denial of access to the financial system. Would you be ok with Stripe stopping payment to the GOP?

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eganist 6y ago
> Would you be ok with Stripe stopping payment to the GOP? Has the GOP, specifically the GOP, advocated for the violent overthrow of the United States Government?
- jasonjayr 6y ago
  They're getting there. > My goal is to cut government in half in twenty-five years, to get it down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub. ~ Grover Norquest
- danhak 6y ago
  “Let’s have trial by combat!” -Rudy Giuliani, 1/6/2021
  - benmmurphy 6y ago
    This quote is deeply misleading. It's not completely clear but I think Rudy is talking about Biden, Trump and himself staking their reputations on the outcome of a fraud investigation. The transcript and the speech is available here: https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/rudy-giuliani-speech-transcript-at-trumps-washington-d-c-rally-wants-trial-by-combat https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/rudy-giuliani-speech-tr... Over the next 10 days, we get to see the machines that are crooked, the ballots that are fraudulent, and if we’re wrong, we will be made fools of. But if we’re right, a lot of them will go to jail. Let’s have trial by combat. I’m willing to stake my reputation, the President is willing to stake his reputation, on the fact that we’re going to find criminality there. Is Joe Biden willing to stake his reputation that there’s no crime there? No. There is also a pause around the trial by combat comment that is not evident in the transcript so its probably worth listening to the speech to get the full context.
- arsome 6y ago
  Has Trump? Did I miss something here? I find it difficult to say he's done anything of the sort directly. I read the comments Twitter used to justify his ban the other day and none of it seemed to directly be calling for any sort of violence, let alone overthrow. EDIT: Is HN so far left-leaning that I get flagged in under 5 minutes for asking this? Sorry, I'm not American, it's possible I missed something here.
- betterunix2 6y ago
  The RNC declared Trump to be the leader of their party after he told a crowd of armed terrorists that they should go to the Capitol and "save" the country from the politicians who were busy certifying the results of an election. They did so after that same crowd stormed the Capitol building, replaced the American flag with a Trump flag, and proudly declared to the cameras that they were there for a "revolution." Kind of hard to know where the line is drawn between "declaring as your leader the man who advocates for a violent overthrow" and "advocating for a violent overthow."
  - benmmurphy 6y ago
    Trump never advocated for violent overthrow of the government.
ketamine__ 6y ago
Stripe hasn't been around that long. I'm sure they can find another payment processor. And if they can't, well, we all know Republicans don't trust filling out documents (i.e. ballots) when it isn't done in person. So perhaps the best solution is for supporters to drive to their local GOP office and hand deliver the cash.
JshWright 6y ago
The GOP is cool with bakers denying service to gay couples, so I assume they would be ok with that, right?

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eganist 6y ago

> Would you be ok with Stripe stopping payment to the GOP? Has the GOP, specifically the GOP, advocated for the violent overthrow of the United States Government?

jasonjayr 6y ago
They're getting there. > My goal is to cut government in half in twenty-five years, to get it down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub. ~ Grover Norquest
danhak 6y ago
“Let’s have trial by combat!” -Rudy Giuliani, 1/6/2021
- benmmurphy 6y ago
  This quote is deeply misleading. It's not completely clear but I think Rudy is talking about Biden, Trump and himself staking their reputations on the outcome of a fraud investigation. The transcript and the speech is available here: https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/rudy-giuliani-speech-transcript-at-trumps-washington-d-c-rally-wants-trial-by-combat https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/rudy-giuliani-speech-tr... Over the next 10 days, we get to see the machines that are crooked, the ballots that are fraudulent, and if we’re wrong, we will be made fools of. But if we’re right, a lot of them will go to jail. Let’s have trial by combat. I’m willing to stake my reputation, the President is willing to stake his reputation, on the fact that we’re going to find criminality there. Is Joe Biden willing to stake his reputation that there’s no crime there? No. There is also a pause around the trial by combat comment that is not evident in the transcript so its probably worth listening to the speech to get the full context.
arsome 6y ago
Has Trump? Did I miss something here? I find it difficult to say he's done anything of the sort directly. I read the comments Twitter used to justify his ban the other day and none of it seemed to directly be calling for any sort of violence, let alone overthrow. EDIT: Is HN so far left-leaning that I get flagged in under 5 minutes for asking this? Sorry, I'm not American, it's possible I missed something here.
betterunix2 6y ago
The RNC declared Trump to be the leader of their party after he told a crowd of armed terrorists that they should go to the Capitol and "save" the country from the politicians who were busy certifying the results of an election. They did so after that same crowd stormed the Capitol building, replaced the American flag with a Trump flag, and proudly declared to the cameras that they were there for a "revolution." Kind of hard to know where the line is drawn between "declaring as your leader the man who advocates for a violent overthrow" and "advocating for a violent overthow."
- benmmurphy 6y ago
  Trump never advocated for violent overthrow of the government.

ketamine__ 6y ago

Stripe hasn't been around that long. I'm sure they can find another payment processor. And if they can't, well, we all know Republicans don't trust filling out documents (i.e. ballots) when it isn't done in person. So perhaps the best solution is for supporters to drive to their local GOP office and hand deliver the cash.

JshWright 6y ago

The GOP is cool with bakers denying service to gay couples, so I assume they would be ok with that, right?