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gab got de-platformed and the mob didn't come for anybody else...the world moved on. not everything is a slippery slope. tons of people criticizing it on twit

gab got de-platformed and the mob didn't come for anybody else...the world moved on. not everything is a slippery slope. tons of people criticizing it on twitter/fb and they aren't being censored.

arsome 6y ago
I'm not so sure - I've watched reddit progress from banning suggestive pictures of children to racism to hating on fat people to political views they don't like and conspiracy theorists... it certainly seems to me like we're sliding down a slippery slope rather quickly. I do wonder if all these bans do is make people angrier.
SV_BubbleTime 6y ago
Yes, first Alex Jones, first Gab, then Trump himself, then Parler, then the Trump’s campaign. Among the other examples of conservatives being censored by bit tech peppered in. Are sure this is a good example to use against it being a slippery slope? FFS, I’m not even a conservative but I have backbone and know I would be furious if this was the other way. Why is ideological consistency so rare?
- flowside 6y ago
  It's not a slippery slope because they're all saying the same things. The examples you listed are not a spectrum where it's leading to milder and milder forms of extremism.
- ketamine__ 6y ago
  Parler bans people that post poop pics. It just so happens that mainstream services have a higher standard. But seriously, how is mounting an insurection a slippery slope? At this point I get the feeling that a lot of people posting here are apologists for domestic terrorism and it worries me. There are violent people and they think like Timothy McVeigh. That should worry you. It should worry you even more if they can find like-minded friends like Terry Nichols on cesspools like Parler.
  - zaroth 6y ago
    > At this point I get the feeling that a lot of people posting here are apologists for domestic terrorism and it worries me. What a great way to shut down any discussion. Anyone who doesn’t agree must be terrorist apologists? If you read these comments and all you can see in anyone not posting full throated praises of this purge are people defending terrorists, consider taking a break from the discussion and come back when you’re ready.
    - pmiller2 6y ago
      What else do you call it when those people arguing in support of someone who incited a mob on the Capitol?
      - zaroth 6y ago
        I’d suggest the comments are actually not as much to do with Trump specifically as you seem to suspect.
        pmiller2 6y ago
        Oh, I see. Are we talking about the 75 million people who supported the person who incited a mob? Members of the mob themselves? What's the difference?
        zaroth 6y ago
        I get it - to you it's just a political flame war. Easier to just brand everyone who voted for Trump a terrorist sympathizer, than to consider the myriad reasons they may have had for voting how they did. It's only 74.2 million people after all. Maybe easier for you to dismiss concerns your fellow technologists might have, when Big Tech's largest companies unite to completely destroy a competitor with millions of users in a single day, based on the actions of a tiny sliver of its users. "What's the difference?" you ask, I assume non-ironically. I wonder, let's say if a politician started a fund to bail out the arrested protesters, would you consider them complicit in the violence?
- Tokkemon 6y ago
  They are not "conservative", they are fascist loons. There's a big difference. Reasonable conservatives can get along quite well in society, even today.

gab got de-platformed and the mob didn't come for anybody else...the world moved on. not everything is a slippery slope. tons of people criticizing it on twitter/fb and they aren't being censored.

arsome 6y ago

I'm not so sure - I've watched reddit progress from banning suggestive pictures of children to racism to hating on fat people to political views they don't like and conspiracy theorists... it certainly seems to me like we're sliding down a slippery slope rather quickly. I do wonder if all these bans do is make people angrier.

SV_BubbleTime 6y ago

Yes, first Alex Jones, first Gab, then Trump himself, then Parler, then the Trump’s campaign. Among the other examples of conservatives being censored by bit tech peppered in. Are sure this is a good example to use against it being a slippery slope? FFS, I’m not even a conservative but I have backbone and know I would be furious if this was the other way. Why is ideological consistency so rare?

flowside 6y ago
It's not a slippery slope because they're all saying the same things. The examples you listed are not a spectrum where it's leading to milder and milder forms of extremism.
ketamine__ 6y ago
Parler bans people that post poop pics. It just so happens that mainstream services have a higher standard. But seriously, how is mounting an insurection a slippery slope? At this point I get the feeling that a lot of people posting here are apologists for domestic terrorism and it worries me. There are violent people and they think like Timothy McVeigh. That should worry you. It should worry you even more if they can find like-minded friends like Terry Nichols on cesspools like Parler.
- zaroth 6y ago
  > At this point I get the feeling that a lot of people posting here are apologists for domestic terrorism and it worries me. What a great way to shut down any discussion. Anyone who doesn’t agree must be terrorist apologists? If you read these comments and all you can see in anyone not posting full throated praises of this purge are people defending terrorists, consider taking a break from the discussion and come back when you’re ready.
  - pmiller2 6y ago
    What else do you call it when those people arguing in support of someone who incited a mob on the Capitol?
    - zaroth 6y ago
      I’d suggest the comments are actually not as much to do with Trump specifically as you seem to suspect.
      - pmiller2 6y ago
        Oh, I see. Are we talking about the 75 million people who supported the person who incited a mob? Members of the mob themselves? What's the difference?
        zaroth 6y ago
        I get it - to you it's just a political flame war. Easier to just brand everyone who voted for Trump a terrorist sympathizer, than to consider the myriad reasons they may have had for voting how they did. It's only 74.2 million people after all. Maybe easier for you to dismiss concerns your fellow technologists might have, when Big Tech's largest companies unite to completely destroy a competitor with millions of users in a single day, based on the actions of a tiny sliver of its users. "What's the difference?" you ask, I assume non-ironically. I wonder, let's say if a politician started a fund to bail out the arrested protesters, would you consider them complicit in the violence?
Tokkemon 6y ago
They are not "conservative", they are fascist loons. There's a big difference. Reasonable conservatives can get along quite well in society, even today.