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My biggest complaint: Normal Copy and Paste does not work. My mother is used to Copy and Paste and it would work in Linux but not in macOS finder because of: th

My biggest complaint: Normal Copy and Paste does not work. My mother is used to Copy and Paste and it would work in Linux but not in macOS finder because of: think different Also why are folders sometimes cluttered all over the place and shorts cuts so weird? Well I fixed it all with Forklift but I also grew up with Norton Commander ;)

Teever 6y ago
I actually filed a bug report with Apple in 2005 regarding the inability to cut and paste files in Finder. They actually responded a few years later and said that this is the intended functionality. Maddening.
- Zarel 6y ago
  They do support copy and move, which I think is clearer that the file doesn't get deleted if you don't "paste" it (and safer than if it did). It's probably annoying to learn a new paradigm, but you could make the argument that it's worth it to learn something that isn't lying to you.
spideymans 6y ago
Can you elaborate? Copy and Paste works exactly as I'd expect in Finder.
- chrisseaton 6y ago
  I think they possibly mis-spoke and mean cut-and-paste, which does appear to be intentionally permanently disabled in Finder via the menu or shortcut. But you can drag so it's not a huge issue to me. Copy-and-paste works a-ok.
  - saagarjha 6y ago
    It's not permanently disabled, it enables itself when you are editing text (for example, if you're renaming a file).
    - oneeyedpigeon 6y ago
      I think they mean cut+paste to move a file.
    - chrisseaton 6y ago
      I think we're talking about copying-and-pasting files in this thread, rather than text in input boxes, as you're thinking.
      - saagarjha 6y ago
        No, I know that. I'm just providing insight as to why that menu item is there and when it enables itself.
  - carlosrg 6y ago
    Cut-and-paste on Finder works perfectly fine too. It's Cmd-C and then Option-Cmd-V on the destination instead of Cmd-V. Alternatively hold Option when opening the Edit menu.
    - chrisseaton 6y ago
      > Alternatively hold Option when opening the Edit menu. This doesn't change the Edit menu for me. Does it work for you today on latest macOS?
      - Kwpolska 6y ago
        It does change the Edit menu in Finder on Big Sur.
        chrisseaton 6y ago
        Well doesn't for me - strange. It does change 'copy' to 'copy as pathname' though.
    - oneeyedpigeon 6y ago
      That's not cut-and-paste. That's copy and some weird modified paste that, as far as I'm aware, doesn't exist anywhere else. Why completely break the existing convention?
      - carlosrg 6y ago
        >the existing convention It is the existing convention, the Mac Finder convention. And yes, it's effectively the same as cut and paste.
        oneeyedpigeon 6y ago
        Do you not think that it's terrible UX, to have cmd+x followed by cmd+v for cut and paste in some places and cmd+c followed by option+cmd+v for cut and paste in others?
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- therealmarv 6y ago
  I meant the standard cut and paste and short cuts. Sorry.
Klonoar 6y ago
What about copy and paste doesn't work...? I use that feature daily. And for the clutter, you can configure Finder to be more militant in how it displays/orders things. The only gripe I have with Finder is needing to set up a million QLPreview things to do better spacebar peeking. Otherwise, it's fine - it "just works" and isn't fancy.
sercand 6y ago
Copy, Cut, and Paste works just fine. I use the following default shortcuts: Cmd+C: Put file to Clipboard Cmd+V: Copy file in Clipboard Cmd+Option+V: Move file in Clipboard (aka Cut)

Teever 6y ago

I actually filed a bug report with Apple in 2005 regarding the inability to cut and paste files in Finder. They actually responded a few years later and said that this is the intended functionality. Maddening.

Zarel 6y ago
They do support copy and move, which I think is clearer that the file doesn't get deleted if you don't "paste" it (and safer than if it did). It's probably annoying to learn a new paradigm, but you could make the argument that it's worth it to learn something that isn't lying to you.

spideymans 6y ago

Can you elaborate? Copy and Paste works exactly as I'd expect in Finder.

chrisseaton 6y ago
I think they possibly mis-spoke and mean cut-and-paste, which does appear to be intentionally permanently disabled in Finder via the menu or shortcut. But you can drag so it's not a huge issue to me. Copy-and-paste works a-ok.
- saagarjha 6y ago
  It's not permanently disabled, it enables itself when you are editing text (for example, if you're renaming a file).
  - oneeyedpigeon 6y ago
    I think they mean cut+paste to move a file.
  - chrisseaton 6y ago
    I think we're talking about copying-and-pasting files in this thread, rather than text in input boxes, as you're thinking.
    - saagarjha 6y ago
      No, I know that. I'm just providing insight as to why that menu item is there and when it enables itself.
- carlosrg 6y ago
  Cut-and-paste on Finder works perfectly fine too. It's Cmd-C and then Option-Cmd-V on the destination instead of Cmd-V. Alternatively hold Option when opening the Edit menu.
  - chrisseaton 6y ago
    > Alternatively hold Option when opening the Edit menu. This doesn't change the Edit menu for me. Does it work for you today on latest macOS?
    - Kwpolska 6y ago
      It does change the Edit menu in Finder on Big Sur.
      - chrisseaton 6y ago
        Well doesn't for me - strange. It does change 'copy' to 'copy as pathname' though.
  - oneeyedpigeon 6y ago
    That's not cut-and-paste. That's copy and some weird modified paste that, as far as I'm aware, doesn't exist anywhere else. Why completely break the existing convention?
    - carlosrg 6y ago
      >the existing convention It is the existing convention, the Mac Finder convention. And yes, it's effectively the same as cut and paste.
      - oneeyedpigeon 6y ago
        Do you not think that it's terrible UX, to have cmd+x followed by cmd+v for cut and paste in some places and cmd+c followed by option+cmd+v for cut and paste in others?
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therealmarv 6y ago
I meant the standard cut and paste and short cuts. Sorry.

Klonoar 6y ago

What about copy and paste doesn't work...? I use that feature daily. And for the clutter, you can configure Finder to be more militant in how it displays/orders things. The only gripe I have with Finder is needing to set up a million QLPreview things to do better spacebar peeking. Otherwise, it's fine - it "just works" and isn't fancy.

sercand 6y ago

Copy, Cut, and Paste works just fine. I use the following default shortcuts: Cmd+C: Put file to Clipboard Cmd+V: Copy file in Clipboard Cmd+Option+V: Move file in Clipboard (aka Cut)