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> And what's that got to do with Trump constantly lying and falsely claiming that the election was somehow "rigged"? There's nothing I can say to convince you

> And what's that got to do with Trump constantly lying and falsely claiming that the election was somehow "rigged"? There's nothing I can say to convince you otherwise, so I am going to skip over this. > He's not making America great, he's making it worse. He's trying as hard as he can to turn America into a banana republic. I thought "America was never great." Whoops! > In the time since this article on disinformation was written Trump has incited a mob to invade the Capitol Building, again based on his false claims that the election was "stolen". Trump didn't incite them, they were already incited. You are being willfully ignorant if you think otherwise. To me, this looks like a lot of people who are angry at the congress critters over the lockdowns, the hypocrisy of those who impose them not following their own rules, burning cities for months, and overall disenfranchisement. Do you think these people would go to the capitol building for something like that if they felt like the system was working for them? I don't. The system no longer works, people feel disenfranchised on both sides, the regime went too far and became too oppressive. The public struck back. If you have a conscious, the only people you would blame for the events of 2020 are the politicians at the federal, state and local levels, and not their disenfranchised constituents. I keep saying this over and over again and for some reason people on here don't get it. Quit blaming powerless citizens!

clouddrover 6y ago
> There's nothing I can say to convince you otherwise, so I am going to skip over this. Yes, you have no answer for it. It's too stark to be explained away. Trump lies constantly. He always has, he always will. > Trump didn't incite them They disagree with you. To quote them, "Our president wants us here. We wait and take orders from our president": https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/09/us/capitol-rioters.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/09/us/capitol-rioters.html > Do you think these people would go to the capitol building for something like that if they felt like the system was working for them? So you're saying that it would have been better if Trump had been a competent president and had actually helped people instead of stroking his own ego. Instead, he is now unambiguously the worst president in America's history. > Quit blaming powerless citizens! I blame Trump.
- rangoon626 6y ago
  > Yes, you have no answer for it. You're going to post stuff from CNN, and I really don't want to argue with their slanted fact checkers via you. You also won't understand anything you don't want to. There's no point. It hasn't mattered to your side that there is video evidence and testimony from postal workers. Reality is, six states stopped counting votes on election night all at the same time. Very fishy. At least admit you got what you wanted, and because of that, you're fine with the fraud. > They disagree with you. To quote them, "Our president wants us here. We wait and take orders from our president": Again they wouldn't have come if things were going well in the country. Also, I don't care about your links. I'm not a redditor. > So you're saying that it would have been better if Trump had been a competent president and had actually helped people instead of stroking his own ego. Instead, he is now unambiguously the worst president in America's history. > I blame Trump. If trump is the only person you blame for all of this, you are going to be sorely disappointed with what comes next. Congress is the one who sat on the second covid relief bill.
  - clouddrover 6y ago
    > you're fine with the fraud There was no fraud. People like Trump depend on people like you being unwilling to accept the practical reality. The title of the article linked to in this Hacker News thread is "Facts won't fix this". And it's true. You are the proof of it.

clouddrover 6y ago

> There's nothing I can say to convince you otherwise, so I am going to skip over this. Yes, you have no answer for it. It's too stark to be explained away. Trump lies constantly. He always has, he always will. > Trump didn't incite them They disagree with you. To quote them, "Our president wants us here. We wait and take orders from our president": https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/09/us/capitol-rioters.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/09/us/capitol-rioters.html > Do you think these people would go to the capitol building for something like that if they felt like the system was working for them? So you're saying that it would have been better if Trump had been a competent president and had actually helped people instead of stroking his own ego. Instead, he is now unambiguously the worst president in America's history. > Quit blaming powerless citizens! I blame Trump.

rangoon626 6y ago
> Yes, you have no answer for it. You're going to post stuff from CNN, and I really don't want to argue with their slanted fact checkers via you. You also won't understand anything you don't want to. There's no point. It hasn't mattered to your side that there is video evidence and testimony from postal workers. Reality is, six states stopped counting votes on election night all at the same time. Very fishy. At least admit you got what you wanted, and because of that, you're fine with the fraud. > They disagree with you. To quote them, "Our president wants us here. We wait and take orders from our president": Again they wouldn't have come if things were going well in the country. Also, I don't care about your links. I'm not a redditor. > So you're saying that it would have been better if Trump had been a competent president and had actually helped people instead of stroking his own ego. Instead, he is now unambiguously the worst president in America's history. > I blame Trump. If trump is the only person you blame for all of this, you are going to be sorely disappointed with what comes next. Congress is the one who sat on the second covid relief bill.
- clouddrover 6y ago
  > you're fine with the fraud There was no fraud. People like Trump depend on people like you being unwilling to accept the practical reality. The title of the article linked to in this Hacker News thread is "Facts won't fix this". And it's true. You are the proof of it.