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Then the pornographic performers should just make their own payment network, no? That's what everyone's been telling Parler since they started being removed fr

Then the pornographic performers should just make their own payment network, no? That's what everyone's been telling Parler since they started being removed from these platforms. I also don't know how you can reconcile this comment with the fact that Gab and others were removed from Visa/MC networks, to much fanfare. To be clear, I'm in favor of Parler going away, but I can't help but notice the double standards.

PaulDavisThe1st 6y ago
Nobody is suggesting to Parler that they build anything like the equivalent of a payment processing network. They just need a hosting service. If they relied heavily on specific services provided by AWS, they would need to either recreate them or reengineer their code to do things differently. These are on an entirely differently level of "just make your own" from "make your own payment network". Unless, that is, there is no hosting service that will have them (and maybe no colo facility that will allow them presence). If so, then I would view the situations as essentially equivalent.
- tidepod12 6y ago
  When Gab was removed from MC/Visa, plenty of people were indeed saying "MC/Visa are private companies and have no obligation to serve Gab. If Gab wants to accept payments, they can build their own network or use cash/crypto".
  - PurpleFoxy 6y ago
    So in order to build a controversial but legal social media system you must first build your own hosting company, own payment processor, own debit cards, and own ISP. I think it’s fair to say you just can’t realistically run a website of the majority of tech corporations are against you.
- tomatotomato37 6y ago
  Wait, ignoring the freedom implications, why is it so necessary for Parler to rent compute in the first place? If the twitter clone analogy holds as true as I think it does they are just serving text snippets and the occasional image; that's well within the capabilities of a rack or two of servers sitting in an office closet somewhere.
glogla 6y ago
> but I can't help but notice the double standards. Yes! It's almost as if Nazis and terrorists are not the same thing as sex workers. What a puzzling thing.
- tidepod12 6y ago
  Are you aware of what "double standards" means? The fact that they are not the same thing is the point. Furthermore, please review the HN guidelines for posting. Your comment is not substantive nor constructive.

PaulDavisThe1st 6y ago

Nobody is suggesting to Parler that they build anything like the equivalent of a payment processing network. They just need a hosting service. If they relied heavily on specific services provided by AWS, they would need to either recreate them or reengineer their code to do things differently. These are on an entirely differently level of "just make your own" from "make your own payment network". Unless, that is, there is no hosting service that will have them (and maybe no colo facility that will allow them presence). If so, then I would view the situations as essentially equivalent.

tidepod12 6y ago
When Gab was removed from MC/Visa, plenty of people were indeed saying "MC/Visa are private companies and have no obligation to serve Gab. If Gab wants to accept payments, they can build their own network or use cash/crypto".
- PurpleFoxy 6y ago
  So in order to build a controversial but legal social media system you must first build your own hosting company, own payment processor, own debit cards, and own ISP. I think it’s fair to say you just can’t realistically run a website of the majority of tech corporations are against you.
tomatotomato37 6y ago
Wait, ignoring the freedom implications, why is it so necessary for Parler to rent compute in the first place? If the twitter clone analogy holds as true as I think it does they are just serving text snippets and the occasional image; that's well within the capabilities of a rack or two of servers sitting in an office closet somewhere.

glogla 6y ago

> but I can't help but notice the double standards. Yes! It's almost as if Nazis and terrorists are not the same thing as sex workers. What a puzzling thing.

tidepod12 6y ago
Are you aware of what "double standards" means? The fact that they are not the same thing is the point. Furthermore, please review the HN guidelines for posting. Your comment is not substantive nor constructive.