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Can't they somehow verify themselves and then be allowed to upload anything they want[1]? I thought the problem was that anyone could make an account and uploa

Can't they somehow verify themselves and then be allowed to upload anything they want[1]? I thought the problem was that anyone could make an account and upload whatever they wished like child pornography, hidden cams, etc. [1] As long as it is legal and it's their own stuff.

manigandham 6y ago
That's not the problem, as stated in the article. It's payments being cut off by card networks.
- marcinzm 6y ago
  Isn't that because PornHub didn't verify anything and was filled with content that exploited people? In the end, the issue seems to be PornHub rather than the card networks.
  - NeutronStar 6y ago
    They removed all unverified content a month ago. So that's clearly not an issue anymore.
- Darmody 6y ago
  The article also says the following. Credit card giants Visa, Mastercard and Discover have blocked all payments to Pornhub, after the adult site was accused of being "infested" with child abuse and rape-related videos. So if PH solves that problem I don't see why they couldn't be back in business.
  - QuesnayJr 6y ago
    Didn't they solve it? I heard they deleted something like 80% of their videos last month.
  - Mavvie 6y ago
    The article also says they have solved that problem, by deleting all videos not uploaded by "verified users". So I don't see why the credit card companies wouldn't unblock it relatively soon.
  - t-writescode 6y ago
    This misses some historical context around credit cards and online pornography companies where credit card companies basically just refuse to be allowed to be used for online porn, primarily around chargebacks. If they’ve found an excuse to not need to work with PornHub, they could easily retain that for perpetuity because credit card companies don’t like being associated with the porn industry. I’ll be surprised if PornHub ends up working directly with the major credit cards again.
  - deleted 6y ago
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  - mst 6y ago
    However, the accusations were made by anti-sex-work groups, not anybody who genuinely cares about the performers' safety or livelihoods. It's generally advisable in cases like this to go find what the sex workers rights advocacy organisations are saying, because mainstream reporting is often puritan trash. (also, so long as the performers were well compensated, I don't honestly see why we should care about "rape-related" given e.g. 50 Shades of Grey was very much 'written porn for women' and while I don't understand that particular kink I'm unwilling to judge what people want to fap/schlick to)
  - x86_64Ubuntu 6y ago
    The cat-and-mouse game between adult industry workers and the credit card industry is legendary. Credit card processors have never been kind to that industry, and once they find a reason to kick someone to the curb it stays that way.
  - adrian_b 6y ago
    While I cannot know for sure what Pornhub does, as I have never used it (but I use other sites with erotic content), I have read about the evolution of this case. It was said that after the accusations have been published, Pornhub has reacted by removing the content that was claimed to include illegal parts and they have changed the rules for using the site (e.g. disabling anonymous uploads and downloads) in order to prevent such cases in the future. Only after the Pornhub reaction, VISA and MC blocked the payments, at a time when there already was not much more that PH could do, except maybe closing the site completely. So only Visa and MC can change anything now.

manigandham 6y ago

That's not the problem, as stated in the article. It's payments being cut off by card networks.

marcinzm 6y ago
Isn't that because PornHub didn't verify anything and was filled with content that exploited people? In the end, the issue seems to be PornHub rather than the card networks.
- NeutronStar 6y ago
  They removed all unverified content a month ago. So that's clearly not an issue anymore.
Darmody 6y ago
The article also says the following. Credit card giants Visa, Mastercard and Discover have blocked all payments to Pornhub, after the adult site was accused of being "infested" with child abuse and rape-related videos. So if PH solves that problem I don't see why they couldn't be back in business.
- QuesnayJr 6y ago
  Didn't they solve it? I heard they deleted something like 80% of their videos last month.
- Mavvie 6y ago
  The article also says they have solved that problem, by deleting all videos not uploaded by "verified users". So I don't see why the credit card companies wouldn't unblock it relatively soon.
- t-writescode 6y ago
  This misses some historical context around credit cards and online pornography companies where credit card companies basically just refuse to be allowed to be used for online porn, primarily around chargebacks. If they’ve found an excuse to not need to work with PornHub, they could easily retain that for perpetuity because credit card companies don’t like being associated with the porn industry. I’ll be surprised if PornHub ends up working directly with the major credit cards again.
- deleted 6y ago
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- mst 6y ago
  However, the accusations were made by anti-sex-work groups, not anybody who genuinely cares about the performers' safety or livelihoods. It's generally advisable in cases like this to go find what the sex workers rights advocacy organisations are saying, because mainstream reporting is often puritan trash. (also, so long as the performers were well compensated, I don't honestly see why we should care about "rape-related" given e.g. 50 Shades of Grey was very much 'written porn for women' and while I don't understand that particular kink I'm unwilling to judge what people want to fap/schlick to)
- x86_64Ubuntu 6y ago
  The cat-and-mouse game between adult industry workers and the credit card industry is legendary. Credit card processors have never been kind to that industry, and once they find a reason to kick someone to the curb it stays that way.
- adrian_b 6y ago
  While I cannot know for sure what Pornhub does, as I have never used it (but I use other sites with erotic content), I have read about the evolution of this case. It was said that after the accusations have been published, Pornhub has reacted by removing the content that was claimed to include illegal parts and they have changed the rules for using the site (e.g. disabling anonymous uploads and downloads) in order to prevent such cases in the future. Only after the Pornhub reaction, VISA and MC blocked the payments, at a time when there already was not much more that PH could do, except maybe closing the site completely. So only Visa and MC can change anything now.