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i cant really take an article serious that compares Apples growth to PC like that. Apple has an almost non existant market share in the enterprise, growing 66%

by kayoone 15y ago

i cant really take an article serious that compares Apples growth to PC like that. Apple has an almost non existant market share in the enterprise, growing 66% is super easy compared to the PC which is nearly everywhere in enterprises. In total, 4.5% of a lot will probably still be much more than 66% of almost nothing. Also how serious does Apple take this ? If it would matter to them, why do they discontinue their XServe and other hardcore enterprise machinery ? Id say they dont care too much about the enterprise market and they dont really need to.

stcredzero 15y ago
Penetration of Mac into the enterprise is going to have to have a generational component. New businesses can start out on Mac and be proud of their difference. Businesses that are already on PC aren't going to budge. Businesses where Macs have a significant footprint might expand that, however. So, a business strategy that will take 15 years to come to fruition? Who knows? It's as likely to happen by accident as anything else. (And yes, the odds seem long.)
- log6 15y ago
  "Businesses that are already on PC aren't going to budge." I'll call BS on that. I work for a large multinational with a 20+ year history of PCs in the workplace, and Macs represent a growing proportion of the workforce laptop pool. They still have to be special-ordered, but I've yet to hear a request denied, and IT will support them. Meanwhile, iPads are the incentive du jour, and iPhones have just been added to the approved list, where Nokia and Blackberry once ruled. I have none of the above, but I see the future, and the future is white. [Edit: And why is everyone talking about servers? There's no mention in the linked article, or the original about servers...]
  - stcredzero 15y ago
    I'll call BS on that. I work for a large multinational with a 20+ year history of PCs in the workplace, and Macs represent a growing proportion of the workforce laptop pool. This is one case where I'm glad to be called BS on!
- thesethings 15y ago
  You're totally right that it has a generational component. But it's not just the generation of the company, it's the generation of the employee. Consumerization (apologies for the buzzword) of internal business technology is an undeniable force that even slow-to-notice Gartner recognizes. A few things are conspiring to help move Macs into the enterprise, even in older companies: * the Internet. (the biggest reason of all. So much of info workers use all day is on the web. Good ol' I barely-care-what-OS-you're-on web). * desktop virtualization like VMware Fusion made it so employees who could do 90% of their work w/out Windows, could still login to that one timekeeping app that required Windows. * the iphone (especially) + android were so much better, so far ahead of Blackberries that Exchange-friendly connectors were written. * BYOC (Bring your own computer) movement. Multiple enterprise IT departments, even in old school companies, are using a system where a stipend is given to an employee to buy his/her own computer. * Google Apps (see also: The Internet). But more specifically, Google Apps dislodges the Exchange/Outlook roots that are the number one reasons big corps can't leave Windows.

by kayoone 15y ago

stcredzero 15y ago

Penetration of Mac into the enterprise is going to have to have a generational component. New businesses can start out on Mac and be proud of their difference. Businesses that are already on PC aren't going to budge. Businesses where Macs have a significant footprint might expand that, however. So, a business strategy that will take 15 years to come to fruition? Who knows? It's as likely to happen by accident as anything else. (And yes, the odds seem long.)

log6 15y ago
"Businesses that are already on PC aren't going to budge." I'll call BS on that. I work for a large multinational with a 20+ year history of PCs in the workplace, and Macs represent a growing proportion of the workforce laptop pool. They still have to be special-ordered, but I've yet to hear a request denied, and IT will support them. Meanwhile, iPads are the incentive du jour, and iPhones have just been added to the approved list, where Nokia and Blackberry once ruled. I have none of the above, but I see the future, and the future is white. [Edit: And why is everyone talking about servers? There's no mention in the linked article, or the original about servers...]
- stcredzero 15y ago
  I'll call BS on that. I work for a large multinational with a 20+ year history of PCs in the workplace, and Macs represent a growing proportion of the workforce laptop pool. This is one case where I'm glad to be called BS on!
thesethings 15y ago
You're totally right that it has a generational component. But it's not just the generation of the company, it's the generation of the employee. Consumerization (apologies for the buzzword) of internal business technology is an undeniable force that even slow-to-notice Gartner recognizes. A few things are conspiring to help move Macs into the enterprise, even in older companies: * the Internet. (the biggest reason of all. So much of info workers use all day is on the web. Good ol' I barely-care-what-OS-you're-on web). * desktop virtualization like VMware Fusion made it so employees who could do 90% of their work w/out Windows, could still login to that one timekeeping app that required Windows. * the iphone (especially) + android were so much better, so far ahead of Blackberries that Exchange-friendly connectors were written. * BYOC (Bring your own computer) movement. Multiple enterprise IT departments, even in old school companies, are using a system where a stipend is given to an employee to buy his/her own computer. * Google Apps (see also: The Internet). But more specifically, Google Apps dislodges the Exchange/Outlook roots that are the number one reasons big corps can't leave Windows.