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I don't understand what people are building in order to need half of this decoupled and managed elsewhere anyway. It wasn't all that challenging to self manage
by ehnto 6y ago
I don't understand what people are building in order to need half of this decoupled and managed elsewhere anyway. It wasn't all that challenging to self manage it five years ago, what's changed?
My guess is that the average small to medium project has drank the enterprise coolaid, and they are suffering the configuration and complexity nightmares that surround managing cloud infrastructure before they really needed to.
As the article is pointing out, you don't forgo managing these things by doing it in the cloud, you just manage it inside a constantly changing Web UI instead of something likely familiar to your developers.
- ratww 6y agoThere are products (Terraform, CloudFormation) that help managing without an UI, but they also add complexity, so our point definitely stills stands.
- dijit 6y agoI've used Terraform for 4~ years. the providers are ever changing (and so is the terraform language/features). So the "ever-changing" part is certainly still true for Terraform.
- dkarl 6y agoI guess it's Kool-Aid? I don't know; I don't remember being lied to when I started using cloud services. I think of cloud resources as being amazing and basically magical, but I know there's a limit to the magic, and the rest is work. People using (for example) AWS S3 should not be surprised that they still have to work to manage the naming, organization, access control, encryption, retention, etc. of their data, and they might encounter problems if they try to load a 100GB S3 object into a byte array in a container provisioned with 1GB of RAM. But they are. I don't know if that's human nature or if they're being lied to by consultants and marketers.