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Shameless plug,.. I run Okeano [1], a privacy friendly [2] search engine that aims to use 80% of profits to purchase river interceptors from the Ocean Cleanup P
by dgut 6y ago
Shameless plug,.. I run Okeano [1], a privacy friendly [2] search engine that aims to use 80% of profits to purchase river interceptors from the Ocean Cleanup Project and deploy them to the worlds most polluting rivers.
We support domain blocklist [3] natively and have !waves (similar to !bangs).
We're bootstrapped and not owned by an advertising company (startpage.com is owned by System1).
[1] https://okeano.com https://okeano.com
[2] https://okeano.com/privacy https://okeano.com/privacy
[3] https://okeano.com/blocklist https://okeano.com/blocklist
- jdemaeyer 6y agohttps://okeano.com/reports https://okeano.com/reports gives me > Can't find what you're looking for.
- dgut 6y agoYes, sorry. Have to fix that. We are not making money yet so no reports to show.
- jchook 6y agoCoincidentally I also see Ecosia[1] on HN front page right now, a search engine that plants trees. 1. https://www.ecosia.org/ https://www.ecosia.org/
- knuxus 6y agothat uses Facebook analytics, apparently
- hundchenkatze 6y agoIt's probably not the best idea to go against established conventions, but I think it'd be pretty cool if you used tilde instead of exclamation marks for waves. :)
- dgut 6y agoYes, I think this is a good idea. Might make this optional or as an alternative. Added to the pipeline.
- lasagna_coder 6y agoI like this. But without adblock I see no ads. Also would it be possible to have a subscription based no-ad version so we don't see ads + don't feel guilty that we aren't helping out by not clicking any ads? I guess it would be hard to stay private because it would mix an paid account id with search queries, but maybe there's a way.
- lasagna_coder 6y agoalso, dark mode pls
- dgut 6y agoIn the pipeline!
- dgut 6y agoWe aren't running ads.. yet. Need more users before we can make a contract where we aren't required by the ad company to send user data. Paid plan has been on my mind for a while now.. and as you said, it's complicated. It's in the pipeline.
- lasagna_coder 6y agoWould be a nice secondary business idea for some to create an ad company to cater to smaller online platforms like yours without requiring user data. Another complicated prospect but at least it would give you a starting point. There's also things like https://coil.com/ https://coil.com/ who seem like they help support online content creators. I wonder if there's a way to treat search results like "content".
- chris_f 6y ago> "There's also things like https://coil.com/ https://coil.com/ who seem like they help support online content creators. I wonder if there's a way to treat search results like "content". It is possible. I built the search engine [0] that was the first to integrate Coil as a monetization source. It is pretty small, but Coil payments do cover about 2% of the monthly cost to run the service. Infinity Search also uses Coil. [1] Here is an article with some thoughts around monetizing a privacy based search engine [2]. --------- [0] https://www.runnaroo.com/ https://www.runnaroo.com/ [1] https://webmonetization.org/ https://webmonetization.org/ [2] https://coil.com/p/runnaroo/Privacy-and-Search-Engine-Monetization/5dXAW6NwF https://coil.com/p/runnaroo/Privacy-and-Search-Engine-Moneti...
- rkudeshi 6y agoDo you index webpages yourself or piggyback off Bing/Google?
- dgut 6y agoIt uses Bing as a backup and for most general search. We have our own index that focuses on specific communities, including HN. Eventually you'll see more tailored search for that index, including a "privacy rank" and page size.
- forgotmypw77 6y agoplease test your site with nojs. js is not an option with many devices and useragents. thank you for doing what you do.
- dgut 6y agoIt's only 22 kb of JS and at least 2/3 of that is Axios which I'm about to replace with Fetch.. but I understand :) In the pipeline!
- Klonoar 6y agoI appreciate the UI work on Okeano, but could you please support a dark mode option?
- dgut 6y agoThank you. Yes, working on it.
- bwQAp2cjo 6y agoMade an account just to say this, search results are good, maybe better than DDG, cant say for sure. Made couple of searches and results are very relevant to what I am searching. And it's faster than DDG, at least for me. I like it.UI is nice too, clean AF. I don't care much for the ocean cleaning part to be honest, yes shame on me. I guess I am cynical since some companies push those altruistic stuff to advertise themselves. Don't mean no ill, it's great what you're doing. Considering using at as my main search engine. Do you proxy exact results from Bing or are the results managed before showing to user? Just searched 4chan, no direct link to 4chan in first page, only "about" it.
- dgut 6y agoHi. Thank you! I try to keep the UI clean and simple. It's nice to hear somebody appreciates that. Regarding results, I wrote an answer to that question here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25717814 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25717814 That 4chan results page is embarrassing indeed. Currently many things in the pipeline, but will fix. If you find any quirks, my email is in my profile. - David
- bwQAp2cjo 6y agoThank you to you too! I think folks at r/privacy r/privacytoolsio would be interested in this, could bring some more users.
- ColinHayhurst 6y agoThey have a page with links to privacy policies https://www.privacytools.io/providers/search-engines/ https://www.privacytools.io/providers/search-engines/