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Twitter has become a place for extremism. Once politicians figured out that they can say anything they want on Twitter, and that their supporters or sock puppet

by mantap 6y ago

Twitter has become a place for extremism. Once politicians figured out that they can say anything they want on Twitter, and that their supporters or sock puppets will spread it around like it's the best thing ever, it encourages extremism. People talk about free speech, but free speech has never meant freedom from moderators. Twitter is well within their rights to place limits on allowable content, just as there are limits to allowable content on HN. The Chinese embassy is well within their rights to make these comments on their own website.

awb 6y ago
This is exactly why WordPress became so popular. You own and control your own content. When you choose to create or consume content on a 3rd party platform, you’re agreeing to their terms and conditions, which often includes some scenarios where they can block or censor your content or access. Complaining about that after the fact is pretty silly. The “I’m leaving X and moving to Y” is a temporary solution. Substack, Parler, Spotify, etc. aren’t any better in the long run, they’re just newer and offer a temporary reprieve. You’ve still hitched yourself to a wagon and are along for the ride. Maybe that ride is better for you, but don’t think for a minute that you’re in the driver’s seat. You’re not truly free until you own the distribution network. Or an owner-less blockchain publishing network might eventually work as well.
iso8859-1 6y ago
> The Chinese embassy is well within their rights to make these comments on their own website. Why? It is on the dot-org TLD, doesn't it have to abide by the dot-org rules? According to this article[0], specific threats of violence are not allowed. [0]: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/05/opinion/dot-org-domain.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/05/opinion/dot-org-domain.ht...
- pas 6y ago
  So is .org still managed by PIR? Is there a list of domains they suspended because its content (or its user's purpose) was in conflict with their rules?
- neartheplain 6y ago
  If the .org rules aren't enforced against 4chan, I can't see how they'll be enforced against the People's Republic of China.
gher-shyu3i 6y ago
> Twitter has become a place for extremism Not just twitter. I feel the fact that social networks keep recommending interests to the users (groups of shared interests or profiles of shared interest) will by definition lead to recommending more and more extreme content, further pushing the divide. Make no mistake, what's happening now in the US is not only the fault of Trump as the leftist narrative is pushing, it's both extremes feeding off of each other. They keep blaming each other without anyone willing to step back and try to reach a common ground.

by mantap 6y ago

awb 6y ago

This is exactly why WordPress became so popular. You own and control your own content. When you choose to create or consume content on a 3rd party platform, you’re agreeing to their terms and conditions, which often includes some scenarios where they can block or censor your content or access. Complaining about that after the fact is pretty silly. The “I’m leaving X and moving to Y” is a temporary solution. Substack, Parler, Spotify, etc. aren’t any better in the long run, they’re just newer and offer a temporary reprieve. You’ve still hitched yourself to a wagon and are along for the ride. Maybe that ride is better for you, but don’t think for a minute that you’re in the driver’s seat. You’re not truly free until you own the distribution network. Or an owner-less blockchain publishing network might eventually work as well.

iso8859-1 6y ago

> The Chinese embassy is well within their rights to make these comments on their own website. Why? It is on the dot-org TLD, doesn't it have to abide by the dot-org rules? According to this article[0], specific threats of violence are not allowed. [0]: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/05/opinion/dot-org-domain.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/05/opinion/dot-org-domain.ht...

pas 6y ago
So is .org still managed by PIR? Is there a list of domains they suspended because its content (or its user's purpose) was in conflict with their rules?
neartheplain 6y ago
If the .org rules aren't enforced against 4chan, I can't see how they'll be enforced against the People's Republic of China.

gher-shyu3i 6y ago

> Twitter has become a place for extremism Not just twitter. I feel the fact that social networks keep recommending interests to the users (groups of shared interests or profiles of shared interest) will by definition lead to recommending more and more extreme content, further pushing the divide. Make no mistake, what's happening now in the US is not only the fault of Trump as the leftist narrative is pushing, it's both extremes feeding off of each other. They keep blaming each other without anyone willing to step back and try to reach a common ground.