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Scuttlebutt inverts this idea of cancelling — as a new user you're just shouting into the void until you persuade someone to follow you. Essentially, each user

Scuttlebutt inverts this idea of cancelling — as a new user you're just shouting into the void until you persuade someone to follow you. Essentially, each user is just writing their own diary. If you follow someone, your client periodically asks around for a copy of that person's diary. No-one's gonna ask for the spammers' diaries.

l33tman 6y ago
But then you could just subscribe to some peoples RSS feeds (or .plans for the archaic people ;). At some point you want to "listen" to a group/forum where you don't have personal control over every member and as soon as a spammer joins you'd get their spam.. how does this work in scuttlebutt, or maybe this is not a use-case it tries to supply, is it just a twitter-clone? (I don't know anything about it...) I guess you could design a group so at first only a few get hit with junk from a new member and as long as nobody stop listening, others would eventually accept the new member as well. Just thinking on this use case as USENET was discussed elsewhere here as an analogy, maybe it's not relevant at all.
- grey_earthling 6y ago
  > At some point you want to "listen" to a group/forum where you don't have personal control over every member and as soon as a spammer joins you'd get their spam.. how does this work in scuttlebutt Scuttlebutt clients typically request the feeds of anyone you follow, plus anyone _they_ follow. (This is called “2 hops”.) If you only follow Alice, and Alice follows Bob, you'll also see Bob's messages. Then if you choose to follow Bob, you may also see Charlie's messages; and so on. It builds a social network in the original sense — neither a bubble with sharply-defined edges, nor a global free-for-all. I see messages from people I don't really agree with (because I follow someone who follows them), but they're not strangers with wholly-incompatible worldviews. And because they're not strangers, and because messages tend to be slow and considered, I'm more likely to engage constructively with their different opinion (even if that's just by listening). It's anti-divisive.

l33tman 6y ago

But then you could just subscribe to some peoples RSS feeds (or .plans for the archaic people ;). At some point you want to "listen" to a group/forum where you don't have personal control over every member and as soon as a spammer joins you'd get their spam.. how does this work in scuttlebutt, or maybe this is not a use-case it tries to supply, is it just a twitter-clone? (I don't know anything about it...) I guess you could design a group so at first only a few get hit with junk from a new member and as long as nobody stop listening, others would eventually accept the new member as well. Just thinking on this use case as USENET was discussed elsewhere here as an analogy, maybe it's not relevant at all.

grey_earthling 6y ago
> At some point you want to "listen" to a group/forum where you don't have personal control over every member and as soon as a spammer joins you'd get their spam.. how does this work in scuttlebutt Scuttlebutt clients typically request the feeds of anyone you follow, plus anyone _they_ follow. (This is called “2 hops”.) If you only follow Alice, and Alice follows Bob, you'll also see Bob's messages. Then if you choose to follow Bob, you may also see Charlie's messages; and so on. It builds a social network in the original sense — neither a bubble with sharply-defined edges, nor a global free-for-all. I see messages from people I don't really agree with (because I follow someone who follows them), but they're not strangers with wholly-incompatible worldviews. And because they're not strangers, and because messages tend to be slow and considered, I'm more likely to engage constructively with their different opinion (even if that's just by listening). It's anti-divisive.