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Out of curiosity, what are your thoughts regarding antifa’s actions in Portland and the BLM protests earlier in the year? Would you have any problem with AWS ho

Out of curiosity, what are your thoughts regarding antifa’s actions in Portland and the BLM protests earlier in the year? Would you have any problem with AWS hosting their services and helping them organize? I’m asking this question in good faith because I’m having a hard time separating the protest on Jan 6th from basically any other protest I saw last summer, including in DC.

whoknew1122 6y ago
I'm not going to even pretend this is a good-faith question. Protests in Portland and other places led to mostly property damage. There were a few deaths, and that sucks. But it wasn't uniformly violence coming from antifa. And the protests were in support of racial and social justice. On the other hand we witnessed the following on the 6th (among too many other things to mention): 1.) A literal gallows erected on Capitol Hill 2.) Thousands of people entering secured areas of a government building. 3.) A police officer literally beat to death with a fire extinguisher This was all in an attempt to overthrow a democratic election. These were insurrectionists intent on using domestic terrorism to overthrow the American government and the concept of American democracy itself. --- That is to say, what we witnessed with BLM protests is completely and diametrically opposite to what we witnessed with the so-called Patriot movement on the 6th. I have absolutely no problem with social justice advocates using AWS as a platform. I do have a problem with domestic terrorists and their enablers using AWS as a platform.
- ed25519FUUU 6y ago
  I guess what I’m looking for is some consistency in messaging. Right now it looks like tribe allegiance is the leading factor for opinions on Jan 6th and all of the other protests of 2020. Tell me your tribe, and I’ll tell you your opinion.
  - augustt 6y ago
    The most basic reason is that people honestly do not believe “antifa” (convenient way to ascribe organization where there is very little, but ok) violence is an existential threat to the US. Violence over racial justice has happened before and it will happen again. And of course, people will try to use it as an excuse to delegitimize real grievances. I don’t think this country has ever seen a president whip his 74M person base into a frenzy over a completely false narrative, with the specific purpose of overthrowing democracy. A huge chunk of people losing faith in democracy will lead us down a scary path, if we’ve learned anything from history.

whoknew1122 6y ago

I'm not going to even pretend this is a good-faith question. Protests in Portland and other places led to mostly property damage. There were a few deaths, and that sucks. But it wasn't uniformly violence coming from antifa. And the protests were in support of racial and social justice. On the other hand we witnessed the following on the 6th (among too many other things to mention): 1.) A literal gallows erected on Capitol Hill 2.) Thousands of people entering secured areas of a government building. 3.) A police officer literally beat to death with a fire extinguisher This was all in an attempt to overthrow a democratic election. These were insurrectionists intent on using domestic terrorism to overthrow the American government and the concept of American democracy itself. --- That is to say, what we witnessed with BLM protests is completely and diametrically opposite to what we witnessed with the so-called Patriot movement on the 6th. I have absolutely no problem with social justice advocates using AWS as a platform. I do have a problem with domestic terrorists and their enablers using AWS as a platform.

ed25519FUUU 6y ago
I guess what I’m looking for is some consistency in messaging. Right now it looks like tribe allegiance is the leading factor for opinions on Jan 6th and all of the other protests of 2020. Tell me your tribe, and I’ll tell you your opinion.
- augustt 6y ago
  The most basic reason is that people honestly do not believe “antifa” (convenient way to ascribe organization where there is very little, but ok) violence is an existential threat to the US. Violence over racial justice has happened before and it will happen again. And of course, people will try to use it as an excuse to delegitimize real grievances. I don’t think this country has ever seen a president whip his 74M person base into a frenzy over a completely false narrative, with the specific purpose of overthrowing democracy. A huge chunk of people losing faith in democracy will lead us down a scary path, if we’ve learned anything from history.