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That's great it worked for Gandhi, but I'd argue the tolerant HAVE been doing that - stretching back to MLK's marches, and yet here we are (in the US) where a v

That's great it worked for Gandhi, but I'd argue the tolerant HAVE been doing that - stretching back to MLK's marches, and yet here we are (in the US) where a violent mob stormed the capitol. Tolerating them may be better for humanity but it takes to long for those folks to disappear from the gene pool. And, they are armed due to the 2nd Amendment, which Gandhi didn't have to deal with. Sure, guns exist around the world but they are in massive abundance in the US.

Andrew_nenakhov 6y ago
Confronting a violent mob has nothing to do with tolerance. Those applying force can be stopped, with force. Suppressing their right to speak, to communicate, to bank, to work, is quite a different matter, more suitable to real fascists many are so scared about. And I don't even want to touch the subject or very recent far more destructive mobs which not only were not silenced, but instead were celebrated and praised for their principled position
ttt0 6y ago
> And, they are armed due to the 2nd Amendment, which Gandhi didn't have to deal with. I don't think you know who Gandhi was. If you think that tolerance doesn't work then just don't call yourself tolerant, it's quite simple. Also your remarks about the gene pool might be interpreted as a call for genocide, so I'd be careful with that. > There is a word for that in the English language: hypocrisy. It's not hypocrisy, it's cognitive dissonance.
- iratewizard 6y ago
  > I don't think you know who Gandhi was Half of this thread in a nutshell is loyalists who have a mediocre grasp on history. Our government was established on founding principles that have been eroded and usurped beyond recognition. The loyalists cannot imagine that one day our elites in government - who care nothing about the people - will do something that even they think crosses a grotesque line. By that time, it will be too late. The power they've given the government in order to remove the bad orange man will not be given up without a fight.
  - ttt0 6y ago
    > Half of this thread in a nutshell is loyalists who have a mediocre grasp on history. Yes, I particularly love when people are trying to appeal to history and justify hate speech laws and Antifa to say that without them, a second Hitler could raise to power. I consider myself to be lacking in education, but damn.

Andrew_nenakhov 6y ago

Confronting a violent mob has nothing to do with tolerance. Those applying force can be stopped, with force. Suppressing their right to speak, to communicate, to bank, to work, is quite a different matter, more suitable to real fascists many are so scared about. And I don't even want to touch the subject or very recent far more destructive mobs which not only were not silenced, but instead were celebrated and praised for their principled position

ttt0 6y ago

> And, they are armed due to the 2nd Amendment, which Gandhi didn't have to deal with. I don't think you know who Gandhi was. If you think that tolerance doesn't work then just don't call yourself tolerant, it's quite simple. Also your remarks about the gene pool might be interpreted as a call for genocide, so I'd be careful with that. > There is a word for that in the English language: hypocrisy. It's not hypocrisy, it's cognitive dissonance.

iratewizard 6y ago
> I don't think you know who Gandhi was Half of this thread in a nutshell is loyalists who have a mediocre grasp on history. Our government was established on founding principles that have been eroded and usurped beyond recognition. The loyalists cannot imagine that one day our elites in government - who care nothing about the people - will do something that even they think crosses a grotesque line. By that time, it will be too late. The power they've given the government in order to remove the bad orange man will not be given up without a fight.
- ttt0 6y ago
  > Half of this thread in a nutshell is loyalists who have a mediocre grasp on history. Yes, I particularly love when people are trying to appeal to history and justify hate speech laws and Antifa to say that without them, a second Hitler could raise to power. I consider myself to be lacking in education, but damn.