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Actually, The Graduate was exactly what I was thinking as I was typing my comment. ;) Edit: didn't reply to the bigger point about oil companies. I kinda thr

Actually, The Graduate was exactly what I was thinking as I was typing my comment. ;) Edit: didn't reply to the bigger point about oil companies. I kinda threw that out there as a quick thought and agree with you that the semiconductor, semi-co materials, or LCD guys might be better positioned. That said, few companies are as good at gathering, refining, processing and shipping gigatons of carbon as the oil companies.

jerf 15y ago
"That said, few companies are as good at gathering, refining, processing and shipping gigatons of carbon" That's abstracting too far. The food industry ships around gigatons of carbon too, which is just as "graphenic" as oil, namely, zero. Pencil manufacturers actually use graphene, but it seems unlikely they're going to lead this drive either.
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- nazar 15y ago
  I thought pencil manufacturers actually use graphite. From the article I understand that graphene pencil is only useful to write on steel sheets.
  - jerf 15y ago
    I had been led to believe by previous articles such as [1] that graphite contains graphene, albeit in small quantities and not in a useful state. The process of trying to produce a link to substantiate this has left me less sure whether it "contains" graphene, or if it merely can produce it under the circumstances described in the article. Given what it is and how much carbon gets around on this planet, it is perhaps hard to say what "contains" graphene in the first place, in much the same way I'm often a bit annoyed when someone counts every oxygen and two hydrogens anywhere in a compound as "water", regardless of how tied up they are. [1]: http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/s_702926.html http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/s_702926...
- hugh3 15y ago
  The bizarre part of the grandparent comment is that there is an industry devoted to the gathering, refining, processing and shipping of gigatons of graphite. It's called the coal industry.

jerf 15y ago

"That said, few companies are as good at gathering, refining, processing and shipping gigatons of carbon" That's abstracting too far. The food industry ships around gigatons of carbon too, which is just as "graphenic" as oil, namely, zero. Pencil manufacturers actually use graphene, but it seems unlikely they're going to lead this drive either.

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nazar 15y ago
I thought pencil manufacturers actually use graphite. From the article I understand that graphene pencil is only useful to write on steel sheets.
- jerf 15y ago
  I had been led to believe by previous articles such as [1] that graphite contains graphene, albeit in small quantities and not in a useful state. The process of trying to produce a link to substantiate this has left me less sure whether it "contains" graphene, or if it merely can produce it under the circumstances described in the article. Given what it is and how much carbon gets around on this planet, it is perhaps hard to say what "contains" graphene in the first place, in much the same way I'm often a bit annoyed when someone counts every oxygen and two hydrogens anywhere in a compound as "water", regardless of how tied up they are. [1]: http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/s_702926.html http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/s_702926...
hugh3 15y ago
The bizarre part of the grandparent comment is that there is an industry devoted to the gathering, refining, processing and shipping of gigatons of graphite. It's called the coal industry.