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I doubt if all Americans that voted for Trump are sympathetic to the Capitol riots. Polls showed that the majority of Republicans were against them. Yougov sho

• empthought 6y ago
  This isn’t an election or popularity contest; 18% of Republicans in favor of armed insurrection and coup is quite significant, ranging into the millions of people.
  • runawaybottle 6y ago
    I’ll also add that they did this without a good enough reason too. I know this is going to go against the media narrative about how reprehensible the riot was, and the reverence we must pay to Congress, but for the entirety of 2005-2020, Congress had record low approval ratings. Last week we just visually saw the reality of storming congress (you may not even know it’s possible in your perceptions until you literally see it). Well, people just saw it’s possible. Either base can find a lot more reasons to rile themselves up and go down there. So, I really don’t buy that Americans will by and large condemn the act, especially on the Republican side. Those polls are for sure under-tallied, Congress (and now particularly, a Democratic congress) is way too hated by the agitated right-wing, the once war mongering Bush nationalists, to the reimagined tea-party anti-Obama coalition, to the re-imagined anti-authoritarian Trump cohort, to the newly re-imagined ___________ (militant?). Not a fringe my dear friends, an evolving force.
  • linuxftw 6y ago
    If you label it a 'coup' well of course that sounds terrible. If you believe the election was stolen, then the other side perpetrated the 'coup.' I don't see either side making any effect towards compromise.
    • Jochim 6y ago
      > If you believe the election was stolen At this point I have to ask, what compromise do you suggest be made to these people? How do you compromise with people that were shouting "Hang Mike Pence" in front of some home-made gallows?
      • linuxftw 6y ago
        A compromise would have been performing a transparent audit in the disputed states, especially in counties where the counting stopped and resumed in the middle of the night. You know, actually listen to and address their complaints instead of just saying 'you're a crazy conspiracy nut.'
        • Jochim 6y ago
          > A compromise would have been performing a transparent audit in the disputed states, especially in counties where the counting stopped and resumed in the middle of the night. But it looks like this did happen? One example[1]. > You know, actually listen to and address their complaints instead of just saying 'you're a crazy conspiracy nut.' There were attempts to address their complaints. Re ounts and audits took place. Those recounts and audits didn't change the result or uncover any further evidence of fraud. This didn't align with Trump's claims so his base dismissed it as lies. The interesting thing coming out of this is that they're now turning on the rest of the republican party who accept what their own observers are telling them. I'd also like to point out that this was all happening while Trump was privately pressuring the Georgia secretary of state to 'find' him enough votes to win[2]. Uncovering fraud was never the motivation here, it's a cynical attempt at destroying trust in the election process in order to corrupt the result. [1]https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/georgia-recount-trump-biden-cobb-county-b1780298.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-electio... [2]https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/10/trump-call-georgia-election-find-the-fraud https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/10/trump-call-g...
          • tekknik 6y ago
• throwaway80332 6y ago
  As always, there is a twist. The question asked was: "Supporters of President Trump have stormed the US Capitol to protest lawmakers certifying Joe Biden’s election victory. Based on what you have read or heard about this, do you support or oppose these actions?" That is not the same as supporting armed rioters breaking into the Capitol Building to try and kill democratic politicians (which isn't what happened, but leftists pretend they think it was). But obviously "liberals" will simply downvote and flag and ban.