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I'm okay suppressing vile points of view such as racism, misogyny, and nationalism, as I said. I, for one, welcome a world where those ideas aren't welcome.

smsm42 6y ago
Nope, you are just okay suppressing points of view you didn't like, while calling them vile names such as "racism, misogyny, and nationalism". You just dismissed the whole 7 million country - and didn't feel a thing. And the world you are welcoming by it is the world of 1984 and Fahrenheit 451. The only different thing is that in your world books aren't be burned - that is bad for climate change. They will be - already are - quietly deleted from the servers. You are the dystopia that we've been warned about by 20th century writers. We failed to prevent you. Now it's for us to despair for the lost freedom and for you to hope to never cross your new masters (but know you will, sooner or later).
- pmiller2 6y ago
  When Israel decides they want to recognize the rights of the Palestinians, as far as I'm concerned, they're welcome to come out and play.
  - CyberDildonics 6y ago
    Until then, you think everyone in the country should be cut off from the internet?
    - pmiller2 6y ago
      Why not? Works for me.
  - smsm42 6y ago
    Israel recognizes the rights of everybody, including of course Arabs (Arab citizens have fully equal rights and have political representation in Knesset). Israel does not recognize some of the demands of the PA (which has full autonomy and Israel does not owe them anything), but this has nothing to do with "rights". Get some information before throwing around accusations. That's always the case with you censorious types - you are stunningly ignorant and unwilling to learn about things you dismiss.
    - pmiller2 6y ago
      You're the ignorant one here. None of your statements pass even a cursory Google search. https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/04/15/how-israel-marginalizes-its-arab-citizens/ https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/04/15/how-israel-marginalizes... https://www.vox.com/world/2018/7/31/17623978/israel-jewish-nation-state-law-bill-explained-apartheid-netanyahu-democracy https://www.vox.com/world/2018/7/31/17623978/israel-jewish-n... https://www.hrw.org/news/2020/05/12/israel-discriminatory-land-policies-hem-palestinians https://www.hrw.org/news/2020/05/12/israel-discriminatory-la... https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/19/one-more-racist-law-reactions-as-israel-axes-arabic-as-official-language https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/19/one-more-racis...
      - smsm42 6y ago
        A pile of propagandist bullshit. Of course outlets like Vox and Guardian hate Israel and call it "racist" all the time. It's a bunch of lies, naturally. One is about official language (there's no "right" of anyone to have their language as official, it's a majority decision and majority in Israel speaks Hebrew - as BTW do all Arabic citizens, who learn it at school and can speak and read it just fine, so nobody is dicriminated about anything), another is whining about Jews living on a land as if it was some sort of crime, third one somehow makes low turnout in Arab neighborhoods into an evidence (without a shred of proof) of somehow discrimination. And it's not like it's 5% turnout - it's 49.1%. In 2015 it was 63%. so I imagine, depending on the cycle and attractiveness of the candidate, it moves between 50 and 65%. US turnout in 2016 was 60%. And I am supposed to take this as an evidence of "marginalization"? That's really scrapping the bottom of the barrel. Taking a usual electoral ebb and flow and presenting it as some kind of rampant racism. Of course, that's exactly what haters of Israel always are and will be doing. And this is demonstrating my case perfectly - this is what you are basing your claim that the whole state of Israel (including the very same Arabs that you pretend to care about of course) should be removed from internet on the basis of that Arab participation in recent election slightly dropped and they lost some votes. This shows very prominently how extensive your censorship ambitions are.
        pmiller2 6y ago

smsm42 6y ago

Nope, you are just okay suppressing points of view you didn't like, while calling them vile names such as "racism, misogyny, and nationalism". You just dismissed the whole 7 million country - and didn't feel a thing. And the world you are welcoming by it is the world of 1984 and Fahrenheit 451. The only different thing is that in your world books aren't be burned - that is bad for climate change. They will be - already are - quietly deleted from the servers. You are the dystopia that we've been warned about by 20th century writers. We failed to prevent you. Now it's for us to despair for the lost freedom and for you to hope to never cross your new masters (but know you will, sooner or later).

pmiller2 6y ago
When Israel decides they want to recognize the rights of the Palestinians, as far as I'm concerned, they're welcome to come out and play.
- CyberDildonics 6y ago
  Until then, you think everyone in the country should be cut off from the internet?
  - pmiller2 6y ago
    Why not? Works for me.
- smsm42 6y ago
  Israel recognizes the rights of everybody, including of course Arabs (Arab citizens have fully equal rights and have political representation in Knesset). Israel does not recognize some of the demands of the PA (which has full autonomy and Israel does not owe them anything), but this has nothing to do with "rights". Get some information before throwing around accusations. That's always the case with you censorious types - you are stunningly ignorant and unwilling to learn about things you dismiss.
  - pmiller2 6y ago
    You're the ignorant one here. None of your statements pass even a cursory Google search. https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/04/15/how-israel-marginalizes-its-arab-citizens/ https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/04/15/how-israel-marginalizes... https://www.vox.com/world/2018/7/31/17623978/israel-jewish-nation-state-law-bill-explained-apartheid-netanyahu-democracy https://www.vox.com/world/2018/7/31/17623978/israel-jewish-n... https://www.hrw.org/news/2020/05/12/israel-discriminatory-land-policies-hem-palestinians https://www.hrw.org/news/2020/05/12/israel-discriminatory-la... https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/19/one-more-racist-law-reactions-as-israel-axes-arabic-as-official-language https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/19/one-more-racis...
    - smsm42 6y ago
      A pile of propagandist bullshit. Of course outlets like Vox and Guardian hate Israel and call it "racist" all the time. It's a bunch of lies, naturally. One is about official language (there's no "right" of anyone to have their language as official, it's a majority decision and majority in Israel speaks Hebrew - as BTW do all Arabic citizens, who learn it at school and can speak and read it just fine, so nobody is dicriminated about anything), another is whining about Jews living on a land as if it was some sort of crime, third one somehow makes low turnout in Arab neighborhoods into an evidence (without a shred of proof) of somehow discrimination. And it's not like it's 5% turnout - it's 49.1%. In 2015 it was 63%. so I imagine, depending on the cycle and attractiveness of the candidate, it moves between 50 and 65%. US turnout in 2016 was 60%. And I am supposed to take this as an evidence of "marginalization"? That's really scrapping the bottom of the barrel. Taking a usual electoral ebb and flow and presenting it as some kind of rampant racism. Of course, that's exactly what haters of Israel always are and will be doing. And this is demonstrating my case perfectly - this is what you are basing your claim that the whole state of Israel (including the very same Arabs that you pretend to care about of course) should be removed from internet on the basis of that Arab participation in recent election slightly dropped and they lost some votes. This shows very prominently how extensive your censorship ambitions are.
      - pmiller2 6y ago