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It's an interesting point I had not yet considered that most private internet censorship seems to relate to some political issue or moral value that primarily p
by Blikkentrekker 6y ago
It's an interesting point I had not yet considered that most private internet censorship seems to relate to some political issue or moral value that primarily plays in the U.S.A..
That, and of course financially complying with pressure from the Chinese government to be tough on whatever independence movement it struggle with now — Catalonia was of course free to chant it's independence.
- secondcoming 6y agoIt's American Privilege, pure and simple. Anything tech is pretty much American and so the rest of the world gets dragged into their bullshit.
- Blikkentrekker 6y agoI find that there is quite a bit of technology that isn't, but that also seems to be less interested in moral police. GNOME is of the U.S.A. and well known for its livid codes of conduct; KDE is of German origins, and seems to be more lax in this. Even with Linux, Linus, a Finn living in the U.S.A., has long resisted it and even referenced this difference between Finnish and U.S.A. culture, but eventually relented.
- secondcoming 6y agoI got the impression the Linus wasn't given much choice. Is there an open-source project, US or not, that the Code of Conduct saga hasn't touched?
- fapjacks 6y agoAnd here we have arrived at the crux of the problem. Should we just throw up our hands and say "Then just don't use American tech"? I think this move by Uganda (and your comment) illustrate the same frustration that we in America feel at the power these monopolies are exerting over public discourse (for some various definitions of "public discourse").
- secondcoming 6y agoI don't think we can't not use it. But anyone on AWS or GCP needs to have a plan for the case where their business is suddenly deemed unacceptable (for whatever reason) and they may get cancelled. The entire world cannot now use Parler (disclosure: I've never downloaded or used it) because a hundred or so people broke into a US government building for 2 hours.
- emteycz 6y agoThat's because you have no idea what's happening elsewhere. Here in Czechia we have our own version of the problems USA faces (regarding "censorship"/deletion of content), and nobody has any idea what's happening in the USA.
- Blikkentrekker 6y agoI am not from the U.S.A.. I merely noticed that much of the censorship and cultural policing on large platforms such as GitHub, or even the new Linux code of conduct seems to be mostly applicable to situations that pertain to the U.S.A. exclusively.
- kergonath 6y agoYes. And it’s beyond ridiculous when these are imported and translated literally to be used as propaganda tools in countries with very different issues. Like the European ramifications of Qanon or some versions of identity politics...
- Blikkentrekker 6y agoOr, of course, how with Google AdSense the entire world must live under the U.S.A.'s notedly quaint aversion to nudity, because allowing it on a website will severely reduce advertisement revenue. It's quite interesting how many international websites would forbid me from posting scenes from Dutch television programming because the adult U.S.A.-man is apparently more damaged by nudity than the præpubertal Dutchman.
- kergonath 6y agoYes, that as well, along with the fetishisation of violence. Even more horrifying is how this is being internalised as “how we should behave” in non-US countries.
- emteycz 6y agoI don't know what about QAnon do you mean. It was a serious problem here. It's not even about the topic itself, it's about the comments under the posts. https://www.expats.cz/czech-news/article/pro-trump-anti-covid-19-restriction-rally-takes-place-in-central-prague https://www.expats.cz/czech-news/article/pro-trump-anti-covi...