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>My line for free speech seems to lie in speech that incites violence or speech that discriminates against people for immutable characteristics of their person,

>My line for free speech seems to lie in speech that incites violence or speech that discriminates against people for immutable characteristics of their person, both of which I know Parler harbors in abundance. How do you feel about #killallmen on Twitter?

BoorishBears 6y ago
I searched this and it looks like it was already explained over this 6 years ago?: https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2014/03/a-twitter-hashtag-probably-doesnt-prove-feminists-want-to-kill-all-men/359493/ https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2014/03/a-twitte... I searched that and the top result was a tweet insulting anyone who even says it. - Overall that looks like a pretty hyperbolic statement rather than a credible threat. Whereas "kill Mike Pence" after a group storms the Capitol building sounds a lot less hyperbolic.
- Psype 6y ago
  Let the time speaking by itself. Parler will end up in court. Why ? Because for years, Trump's administration (I don't recall but maybe Obama's also) is fighting against "Fake News", forcing platforms to do fact checking "or else". A new platform emerging, promoting its lack of control over that will irremediably leads to huge abuses and scandals. It's just a matter of time. A massive scandal over a year, a closure over two or three tops.
  - papertokyo 6y ago
    This does seem like the obvious outcome. We just witnessed the self-initiated shutdown of Voat, which was different in concept but similar in intention. Maybe they saw the writing on the wall?
manicdee 6y ago
How do you feel about “it’s a joke” being used as an excuse for rape jokes?
- simonh 6y ago
  Its at the discrediting of platform owners what they allow on their platform. That’s it. Different platform owners will draw different lines, and that’s fine, they should have the freedom to do so.
OwlsParlay 6y ago
Twitter is already very judicious when it comes to any use of the word 'kill' nowadays=s, or anything that could be violent. Just requires a report.
- shripadk 6y ago
  I don't know whether to laugh or cry at what you said. "Just requires a report". Okay here is a challenge for you. I'll give you links from 2016 - 2019. Try getting them removed. I have been reporting them for months now and Twitter hasn't acted. Twitter sucks at this. It only removes Right Wing content. But maybe Twitter will be willing to take your report seriously instead of mine. So here is the list: 2016 post: https://twitter.com/lil_cmb/status/765737247781949444?s=19 https://twitter.com/lil_cmb/status/765737247781949444?s=19 2018 post: https://twitter.com/DutchessOfDork/status/1005538609032769536?s=19 https://twitter.com/DutchessOfDork/status/100553860903276953... 2018 post: https://twitter.com/MadamePete/status/1017462143279681541?s=19 https://twitter.com/MadamePete/status/1017462143279681541?s=... 2019 post: https://twitter.com/jcmithnoy/status/1085855272793366529?s=19 https://twitter.com/jcmithnoy/status/1085855272793366529?s=1... The ex-PM of Malaysia literally tweeted that Muslims have a right to kill millions of French people for massacres of the past. On Twitter. I am sure nothing of what Trump tweeted matches this racist hate. Yet Trump was banned while the ex-PM of Malaysia deleted his tweet by himself without any repercussions from Twitter. Read more about it here: https://twitter.com/AskAnshul/status/1347803217405509632 https://twitter.com/AskAnshul/status/1347803217405509632 When it comes to Social Media I have a huge list of things that these companies have done wrong. And it just keeps growing. So when you say "Just requires a report" I feel like laughing at your innocence. I have a list of Instagram accounts that spew anti-Hindu content daily. Have reported them multiple times already. Facebook doesn't remove them. I don't even want to link to them because it is that bad!
  - BoorishBears 6y ago
    > Twitter sucks at this. It only removes Right Wing content. https://twitter.com/cecilyy15/status/410145078670536704?s=20 https://twitter.com/cecilyy15/status/410145078670536704?s=20 https://twitter.com/cjevans64/status/333093612520865792?s=20 https://twitter.com/cjevans64/status/333093612520865792?s=20 https://twitter.com/dlwest4/status/387428416753917952?s=20 https://twitter.com/dlwest4/status/387428416753917952?s=20 https://twitter.com/_dresslr/status/455476238334033920?s=20 https://twitter.com/_dresslr/status/455476238334033920?s=20 There are literally pages more. What you mean is Twitter doesn't prioritize your singular reports on low engagement tweets from years ago. If they had more engagement they could have more reports. But keep martyring yourself, it results in amusing justifications like thinking there wouldn't be racist people who had clamored for the assassination of the first black president of the United States :) - Also your bringing up that PM is a great example too! Twitter has bent over backwards for politically influential individuals. Twitter was under the impression nothing Trump could do would get his account banned while president, they even said as much! It took 5 deaths at the Capitol during an attempted attack on Congress as a direct result of his actions for them throw in the towel. I mean the man threatened nuclear war over Twitter and Twitter didn't bat an eyelid. Compared to that a poorly worded comment about genocide seems about par?

BoorishBears 6y ago

I searched this and it looks like it was already explained over this 6 years ago?: https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2014/03/a-twitter-hashtag-probably-doesnt-prove-feminists-want-to-kill-all-men/359493/ https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2014/03/a-twitte... I searched that and the top result was a tweet insulting anyone who even says it. - Overall that looks like a pretty hyperbolic statement rather than a credible threat. Whereas "kill Mike Pence" after a group storms the Capitol building sounds a lot less hyperbolic.

Psype 6y ago
Let the time speaking by itself. Parler will end up in court. Why ? Because for years, Trump's administration (I don't recall but maybe Obama's also) is fighting against "Fake News", forcing platforms to do fact checking "or else". A new platform emerging, promoting its lack of control over that will irremediably leads to huge abuses and scandals. It's just a matter of time. A massive scandal over a year, a closure over two or three tops.
- papertokyo 6y ago
  This does seem like the obvious outcome. We just witnessed the self-initiated shutdown of Voat, which was different in concept but similar in intention. Maybe they saw the writing on the wall?

manicdee 6y ago

How do you feel about “it’s a joke” being used as an excuse for rape jokes?

simonh 6y ago
Its at the discrediting of platform owners what they allow on their platform. That’s it. Different platform owners will draw different lines, and that’s fine, they should have the freedom to do so.

OwlsParlay 6y ago

Twitter is already very judicious when it comes to any use of the word 'kill' nowadays=s, or anything that could be violent. Just requires a report.

shripadk 6y ago
I don't know whether to laugh or cry at what you said. "Just requires a report". Okay here is a challenge for you. I'll give you links from 2016 - 2019. Try getting them removed. I have been reporting them for months now and Twitter hasn't acted. Twitter sucks at this. It only removes Right Wing content. But maybe Twitter will be willing to take your report seriously instead of mine. So here is the list: 2016 post: https://twitter.com/lil_cmb/status/765737247781949444?s=19 https://twitter.com/lil_cmb/status/765737247781949444?s=19 2018 post: https://twitter.com/DutchessOfDork/status/1005538609032769536?s=19 https://twitter.com/DutchessOfDork/status/100553860903276953... 2018 post: https://twitter.com/MadamePete/status/1017462143279681541?s=19 https://twitter.com/MadamePete/status/1017462143279681541?s=... 2019 post: https://twitter.com/jcmithnoy/status/1085855272793366529?s=19 https://twitter.com/jcmithnoy/status/1085855272793366529?s=1... The ex-PM of Malaysia literally tweeted that Muslims have a right to kill millions of French people for massacres of the past. On Twitter. I am sure nothing of what Trump tweeted matches this racist hate. Yet Trump was banned while the ex-PM of Malaysia deleted his tweet by himself without any repercussions from Twitter. Read more about it here: https://twitter.com/AskAnshul/status/1347803217405509632 https://twitter.com/AskAnshul/status/1347803217405509632 When it comes to Social Media I have a huge list of things that these companies have done wrong. And it just keeps growing. So when you say "Just requires a report" I feel like laughing at your innocence. I have a list of Instagram accounts that spew anti-Hindu content daily. Have reported them multiple times already. Facebook doesn't remove them. I don't even want to link to them because it is that bad!
- BoorishBears 6y ago
  > Twitter sucks at this. It only removes Right Wing content. https://twitter.com/cecilyy15/status/410145078670536704?s=20 https://twitter.com/cecilyy15/status/410145078670536704?s=20 https://twitter.com/cjevans64/status/333093612520865792?s=20 https://twitter.com/cjevans64/status/333093612520865792?s=20 https://twitter.com/dlwest4/status/387428416753917952?s=20 https://twitter.com/dlwest4/status/387428416753917952?s=20 https://twitter.com/_dresslr/status/455476238334033920?s=20 https://twitter.com/_dresslr/status/455476238334033920?s=20 There are literally pages more. What you mean is Twitter doesn't prioritize your singular reports on low engagement tweets from years ago. If they had more engagement they could have more reports. But keep martyring yourself, it results in amusing justifications like thinking there wouldn't be racist people who had clamored for the assassination of the first black president of the United States :) - Also your bringing up that PM is a great example too! Twitter has bent over backwards for politically influential individuals. Twitter was under the impression nothing Trump could do would get his account banned while president, they even said as much! It took 5 deaths at the Capitol during an attempted attack on Congress as a direct result of his actions for them throw in the towel. I mean the man threatened nuclear war over Twitter and Twitter didn't bat an eyelid. Compared to that a poorly worded comment about genocide seems about par?