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The planning wasn't done there, just bloviating. The planning was done on telegram and signal (and to a lesser extent Keybase and wire). Lots of people doing os

The planning wasn't done there, just bloviating. The planning was done on telegram and signal (and to a lesser extent Keybase and wire). Lots of people doing osint on the events could tell you that. Interestingly, the banning of all these accounts has caused the size of the telegram groups to increase dramatically and the discourse to get much more violent.

KMag 6y ago
As I've suggested elsewhere, I think 1-month to 3-month suspensions are much better than lifetime bans. Suspensions keep followers hanging around the mainstream platform, where you can suggest centrist content to them. A lifetime ban gets rid of all carrots and all future sticks the platform can offer.
- true_religion 6y ago
  Sure, but do we really want to platform to take an active and knowing hand in shaping politics? Right now they have an effect through algorithms, but their actions don’t seem to be coordinated towards any goal other than increasing engagement with the platform. This is actively different than pitching centrist content to extremists because the platform owners are centrists themselves. What if the platform owners become extremists like Parler?
  - KMag 6y ago
    Up until 3 or 4 years ago, I was nearly a free speech maximalist. Now, it seems clear that society is poorly equipped and adjusting poorly to social media. I think giving more control to centrist platforms is the least bad of all the bad options I see. I'm not sure how to mitigate the long-term risks introduced, but the bifurcation of society appears to be a slow motion car crash in progress. I'd love to be convinced that there are better options, especially if they allowed me to move closer to free speech maximalism. I think it would help to change middle school and high school civics curricula by adding cognitive biases, logical fallacies (including some basic statistical fallacies), and other tools to better handle social media.
paulddraper 6y ago
Yeah imagine there was a plan except "show up to a rally at this time in this place."

KMag 6y ago

As I've suggested elsewhere, I think 1-month to 3-month suspensions are much better than lifetime bans. Suspensions keep followers hanging around the mainstream platform, where you can suggest centrist content to them. A lifetime ban gets rid of all carrots and all future sticks the platform can offer.

true_religion 6y ago
Sure, but do we really want to platform to take an active and knowing hand in shaping politics? Right now they have an effect through algorithms, but their actions don’t seem to be coordinated towards any goal other than increasing engagement with the platform. This is actively different than pitching centrist content to extremists because the platform owners are centrists themselves. What if the platform owners become extremists like Parler?
- KMag 6y ago
  Up until 3 or 4 years ago, I was nearly a free speech maximalist. Now, it seems clear that society is poorly equipped and adjusting poorly to social media. I think giving more control to centrist platforms is the least bad of all the bad options I see. I'm not sure how to mitigate the long-term risks introduced, but the bifurcation of society appears to be a slow motion car crash in progress. I'd love to be convinced that there are better options, especially if they allowed me to move closer to free speech maximalism. I think it would help to change middle school and high school civics curricula by adding cognitive biases, logical fallacies (including some basic statistical fallacies), and other tools to better handle social media.

paulddraper 6y ago

Yeah imagine there was a plan except "show up to a rally at this time in this place."