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They had zipties, bombs, weapons and gallows. Can you imagine if one of those people who've spent 2 years reading hateful news about AOC would've done if they m

They had zipties, bombs, weapons and gallows. Can you imagine if one of those people who've spent 2 years reading hateful news about AOC would've done if they managed to make it to her office? Honestly January 6 could've ended much worse, and if something isn't done to put a break to the vitriot going unchecked on Parler, it very well may happen. These people were recruiting and planning everything on Parler, doxxing and sharing information. This is what happens when a platform goes unmoderated. People like to think that a 100% free speech platform is great, but every instance of it I've seen has devolved into child porn, doxxing and violence.

three_seagrass 6y ago
The NYT Daily podcast yesterday had some insightful info from some of their reporters on the ground. The president was basically communicating with the mob through Twitter. Ten minutes after Trump tweeted that his VP was a coward and a traitor, the mob that had invaded the Capitol started chanting, "Give us Pence". This is as the U.S. VP is also being evacuated.
- diryawish 6y ago
  “Coward and a traitor.” Is that an actual quote or are you editorializing?
  - true_religion 6y ago
    The actual Tweet is “Mike Pence didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country”. I do also recall that he called out Pence during the speech leading to the riot as well. However the thing that stood out the most to me at that speech is that his son said they would make the party the “Trump Republican Party”, which seemed to indicate a coming purge. Now at the time, I thought it would be a nonviolent purge, but considering the riot I am not sure what was actually intended since his followers took that to mean Pence should be hanged.
tpirx 6y ago
By what measure are you attributing all of this to any App specifically? What if 60% of the violent offenders were radicalized via Twitter? If this were a court case all of the platforms would be implicated. On what ground will you stand on to prevent another crypto war? [0] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypto_Wars https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypto_Wars
- franklampard 6y ago
  If 60% is from Twitter, we eradicate 60%. Good
  - optical 6y ago
    You are not eradicating anything. You are removing people them from your view AND pissing them off in the process. A time tested key for success.
    - astrange 6y ago
      This is the same thing an abuser says to their spouse.
      - meowkit 6y ago
        Please provide an example because what you're saying doesn't make sense to me.
        astrange 6y ago
        Making them leave (= leaving them) will be bad because it “will only make them angrier” and it won’t really solve anything.
        read_if_gay_ 6y ago
        Just because it’s also used by abusers doesn’t mean it’s always incorrect. Clearly the divide has been growing, and if you think deplatforming the right (which of course immediately went on to create their own platforms, so there’s now left wing and right wing echo chambers) isn’t at least partly to blame, then what is?
SV_BubbleTime 6y ago
There were 600,000 to 800,000 people there. Two had zip ties. We just had a whole summer of being told the vast majority at a protest do not represent the worst couple of actors. Time to apply the same thought to both “sides”. Ideological consistency.
- Consultant32452 6y ago
  Nah, they're right. The most powerful military in the history of the solar system almost fell to a couple pipe bombs and a hand full of zip ties.
  - chillwaves 6y ago
    That's what happens when your commander in chief is a narcissistic liar who creates chaos for his own benefit. The "most powerful military in the history of the solar system" did not deploy for roughly 4 hours. The rioters were leaving on their own accord when the backup finally arrived. Maybe you should reconsider your point. It's also interesting to see how folks will use sarcasm and not speak directly about what they are defending. Do you realize what you are defending?
    - zaroth 6y ago
      The person you replied to isn’t defending the action of the mob. They are rebutting the claims being made of what hypothetically could have happened. “Do you realize what you are defending?” is just a tactic to shut down a conversation you don’t feel like having.
      - chillwaves 6y ago
        If people want to support the actions of Jan 6, they should be clear about. Tired of wasting time talking around the real issue while they make up fake whataboutisms. Because that's what this conversation is about. A murderous mob sic'd on Congress by the President because he didn't like losing an election. So again, to all the people defending this action, do you realize what you are defending? And I'm happy to have this conversation. Folks want to minimize Trump's lies that directly lead to the deaths of 5 people, one of which was a cop beaten to death by his mob, then yes, let's have this conversation.
FriendlyNormie 6y ago
We’re only getting started, nigger. We’re coming for you next.
newguy1234 6y ago
The problem with this is that it doesn't end with parler and similar. It ends with a new bill being passed where the ability to make communication platforms of anything is effectively stripped from any small person from making. It will be delegated solely to big corporations with government approval.

three_seagrass 6y ago

The NYT Daily podcast yesterday had some insightful info from some of their reporters on the ground. The president was basically communicating with the mob through Twitter. Ten minutes after Trump tweeted that his VP was a coward and a traitor, the mob that had invaded the Capitol started chanting, "Give us Pence". This is as the U.S. VP is also being evacuated.

diryawish 6y ago
“Coward and a traitor.” Is that an actual quote or are you editorializing?
- true_religion 6y ago
  The actual Tweet is “Mike Pence didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country”. I do also recall that he called out Pence during the speech leading to the riot as well. However the thing that stood out the most to me at that speech is that his son said they would make the party the “Trump Republican Party”, which seemed to indicate a coming purge. Now at the time, I thought it would be a nonviolent purge, but considering the riot I am not sure what was actually intended since his followers took that to mean Pence should be hanged.

tpirx 6y ago

By what measure are you attributing all of this to any App specifically? What if 60% of the violent offenders were radicalized via Twitter? If this were a court case all of the platforms would be implicated. On what ground will you stand on to prevent another crypto war? [0] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypto_Wars https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypto_Wars

franklampard 6y ago
If 60% is from Twitter, we eradicate 60%. Good
- optical 6y ago
  You are not eradicating anything. You are removing people them from your view AND pissing them off in the process. A time tested key for success.
  - astrange 6y ago
    This is the same thing an abuser says to their spouse.
    - meowkit 6y ago
      Please provide an example because what you're saying doesn't make sense to me.
      - astrange 6y ago
        Making them leave (= leaving them) will be bad because it “will only make them angrier” and it won’t really solve anything.
        read_if_gay_ 6y ago
        Just because it’s also used by abusers doesn’t mean it’s always incorrect. Clearly the divide has been growing, and if you think deplatforming the right (which of course immediately went on to create their own platforms, so there’s now left wing and right wing echo chambers) isn’t at least partly to blame, then what is?

SV_BubbleTime 6y ago

There were 600,000 to 800,000 people there. Two had zip ties. We just had a whole summer of being told the vast majority at a protest do not represent the worst couple of actors. Time to apply the same thought to both “sides”. Ideological consistency.

Consultant32452 6y ago
Nah, they're right. The most powerful military in the history of the solar system almost fell to a couple pipe bombs and a hand full of zip ties.
- chillwaves 6y ago
  That's what happens when your commander in chief is a narcissistic liar who creates chaos for his own benefit. The "most powerful military in the history of the solar system" did not deploy for roughly 4 hours. The rioters were leaving on their own accord when the backup finally arrived. Maybe you should reconsider your point. It's also interesting to see how folks will use sarcasm and not speak directly about what they are defending. Do you realize what you are defending?
  - zaroth 6y ago
    The person you replied to isn’t defending the action of the mob. They are rebutting the claims being made of what hypothetically could have happened. “Do you realize what you are defending?” is just a tactic to shut down a conversation you don’t feel like having.
    - chillwaves 6y ago
      If people want to support the actions of Jan 6, they should be clear about. Tired of wasting time talking around the real issue while they make up fake whataboutisms. Because that's what this conversation is about. A murderous mob sic'd on Congress by the President because he didn't like losing an election. So again, to all the people defending this action, do you realize what you are defending? And I'm happy to have this conversation. Folks want to minimize Trump's lies that directly lead to the deaths of 5 people, one of which was a cop beaten to death by his mob, then yes, let's have this conversation.

FriendlyNormie 6y ago

We’re only getting started, nigger. We’re coming for you next.

newguy1234 6y ago

The problem with this is that it doesn't end with parler and similar. It ends with a new bill being passed where the ability to make communication platforms of anything is effectively stripped from any small person from making. It will be delegated solely to big corporations with government approval.