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Finally "Fediverse" will now become a household word! Applications like Mastodon, Pleroma, and the platform I'm developing myself (https://quanta.wiki https://

Finally "Fediverse" will now become a household word! Applications like Mastodon, Pleroma, and the platform I'm developing myself (https://quanta.wiki https://quanta.wiki) can now hopefully gain enough traction to replace the monopoly Social Media services.

smitty1e 6y ago
Once the platforms diversify a bit, DNS will become the next front.
- WClayFerguson 6y ago
  You might be right. If ISPs start banning domain names, there'll have to be some kind of solution that's like BitTorrent or a blockchain. This is why many in government are already coming after encryption itself, because they know ultimately without encryption there is no freedom left at all.
crocodiletears 6y ago
The fediverse needs to find a way to abstract identity and consumption from content hosting before it can properly take off, imo. As it stands, when joining as a casual user with limited technical knowlesge, you have to guess at which fiefdom is the best for you to join, and hope that your moderators are mature, even-handed and that nobody on your server does anything to get you defederated. If things on your instance do go south, transferring hosts as I understand it is a pain in the ass, because you have to download your data off the server (assuming your account is still accessible), and then contact everyone you interact with (assuming your instance wasn't blocked by theirs), and tell them where you're moving to. Then you sign up for the new instance, upload your data, set a flag on your account to indicate that it's a transfered identity (optional). Fingers crossed your new host is federated with everyone you want to interact with.
- WClayFerguson 6y ago
  Very good summary of some of the weaknesses in the Fediverse. Federated systems are not as good as fully decentralized ones. Today I'm starting a new experiment on my own web platform called quanta.wiki (I'm a Java developer) to investigate how to make it fully decentralized where everyone at least (at first) holds a copy of their entire fiefdom. Once the 'fiefdom' is not able to be shut down by targeting it's DNS name (hosting service), we can have a social media infrastructure that cannot be censored at all, like a blockchain.

smitty1e 6y ago

Once the platforms diversify a bit, DNS will become the next front.

WClayFerguson 6y ago
You might be right. If ISPs start banning domain names, there'll have to be some kind of solution that's like BitTorrent or a blockchain. This is why many in government are already coming after encryption itself, because they know ultimately without encryption there is no freedom left at all.

crocodiletears 6y ago

The fediverse needs to find a way to abstract identity and consumption from content hosting before it can properly take off, imo. As it stands, when joining as a casual user with limited technical knowlesge, you have to guess at which fiefdom is the best for you to join, and hope that your moderators are mature, even-handed and that nobody on your server does anything to get you defederated. If things on your instance do go south, transferring hosts as I understand it is a pain in the ass, because you have to download your data off the server (assuming your account is still accessible), and then contact everyone you interact with (assuming your instance wasn't blocked by theirs), and tell them where you're moving to. Then you sign up for the new instance, upload your data, set a flag on your account to indicate that it's a transfered identity (optional). Fingers crossed your new host is federated with everyone you want to interact with.

WClayFerguson 6y ago
Very good summary of some of the weaknesses in the Fediverse. Federated systems are not as good as fully decentralized ones. Today I'm starting a new experiment on my own web platform called quanta.wiki (I'm a Java developer) to investigate how to make it fully decentralized where everyone at least (at first) holds a copy of their entire fiefdom. Once the 'fiefdom' is not able to be shut down by targeting it's DNS name (hosting service), we can have a social media infrastructure that cannot be censored at all, like a blockchain.