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I think it's in the interest of the FBI and CIA to covertly run a service that caters to the extremists, so that they can monitor their activities. If they get

I think it's in the interest of the FBI and CIA to covertly run a service that caters to the extremists, so that they can monitor their activities. If they get driven underground, it will be harder to maintain tabs on them, but the create a platform that let's them talk among themselves, it seems as easy as shooting fish in a barrel!

WClayFerguson 6y ago
I think this last four years have proven FBI and CIA cannot be trusted, and people will get called 'extremist' by the Left merely for having differing political views. I mean we just got done watching Trump get labeled a terrorist merely for having a political rally. The leftist mob has clearly lost their collective minds and are under some kind of mass delusion at this point. We need more apps like https://quanta.wiki https://quanta.wiki that allow not just Social Media, but secure E2E encrypted communications, and file sharing.
- demifiend 6y ago
  > I mean we just got done watching Trump get labeled a terrorist merely for having a political rally. I've been to political rallies. They don't typically involve storming government buildings and forcing elected officials to evacuate. If people are going to try to overthrow the government, it really ought to be for better reason than that a washed-up reality TV host can't accept the fact that he must settle for only getting one term as President of the United States.
  - WClayFerguson 6y ago
    If a politician who holds a rally is responsible for the behaviors of looters and arsonists and violence in said rally, then you can hold that opinion and be consistent as long as you held that opinion all 2020 long while our cities burned and literally caused people to flee to the countryside by the millions. And on a totally separate point, the police let the demonstrators into the building knowing most of them love their country, and where there to genuinely protest, and they didn't even damage any of the million-dollar paintings on the walls, set fires, or assault people (only two crazies, which exist in any group)). If this had been BLM the building would've been burned down and you would be rationalizing why is was "a just cause"
- jennyyang 6y ago
  I'm actually less anti-Trump than most. I voted for him in 2016, but didn't vote for him in 2020. I don't like most of his policies, but there are some of his policies that I do like. I liked Trump before he became president, I thought he was a hoot. So I understand his way of speaking and know that some journalists really like to twist what he says. He just doesn't have the discipline to say things presidentially and talks off script in his very loose way. I do however think his behavior has been deplorable since the election loss, and he blatantly incited a riot. He crossed a line and he deserves to be punished.
  - WClayFerguson 6y ago
    Actually what happened is the president tried to hold a rally, and because it turned violent, Democrat-controlled BigTech used that as an excuse to purge their political adversaries from social media and even shut down social media websites they don't like. It's absolutely sickening to see Democrats willingly giving up their free speech rights, just because they're angry with one man. You can't just shut down entire segments of the telecommunications infrastructure as a way to wage your political battles. That's a childish abuse of power, and everyone who isn't outraged by it should be ashamed of themselves and frankly grow up.
    - chalst 6y ago
      Trump's claims about a stolen election remind me of the Nazi's promotion of the Stolchdoß myth. Sometimes the free exercise of speech is a great danger. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stab-in-the-back_myth https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stab-in-the-back_myth
      - WClayFerguson 6y ago
        I think a better analogy was when Hitler started taking rights away from Jews little by little, and the public didn't recognize the problem early on. Democrats are always in favor of taking rights from others, until eventually they ultimately realize the mistake only once they want the rights back for themselves.
bmarquez 6y ago
Yes, it's called Facebook :) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_%28surveillance_program%29#Media_disclosure_of_PRISM https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_%28surveillance_program%...

WClayFerguson 6y ago

I think this last four years have proven FBI and CIA cannot be trusted, and people will get called 'extremist' by the Left merely for having differing political views. I mean we just got done watching Trump get labeled a terrorist merely for having a political rally. The leftist mob has clearly lost their collective minds and are under some kind of mass delusion at this point. We need more apps like https://quanta.wiki https://quanta.wiki that allow not just Social Media, but secure E2E encrypted communications, and file sharing.

demifiend 6y ago
> I mean we just got done watching Trump get labeled a terrorist merely for having a political rally. I've been to political rallies. They don't typically involve storming government buildings and forcing elected officials to evacuate. If people are going to try to overthrow the government, it really ought to be for better reason than that a washed-up reality TV host can't accept the fact that he must settle for only getting one term as President of the United States.
- WClayFerguson 6y ago
  If a politician who holds a rally is responsible for the behaviors of looters and arsonists and violence in said rally, then you can hold that opinion and be consistent as long as you held that opinion all 2020 long while our cities burned and literally caused people to flee to the countryside by the millions. And on a totally separate point, the police let the demonstrators into the building knowing most of them love their country, and where there to genuinely protest, and they didn't even damage any of the million-dollar paintings on the walls, set fires, or assault people (only two crazies, which exist in any group)). If this had been BLM the building would've been burned down and you would be rationalizing why is was "a just cause"
jennyyang 6y ago
I'm actually less anti-Trump than most. I voted for him in 2016, but didn't vote for him in 2020. I don't like most of his policies, but there are some of his policies that I do like. I liked Trump before he became president, I thought he was a hoot. So I understand his way of speaking and know that some journalists really like to twist what he says. He just doesn't have the discipline to say things presidentially and talks off script in his very loose way. I do however think his behavior has been deplorable since the election loss, and he blatantly incited a riot. He crossed a line and he deserves to be punished.
- WClayFerguson 6y ago
  Actually what happened is the president tried to hold a rally, and because it turned violent, Democrat-controlled BigTech used that as an excuse to purge their political adversaries from social media and even shut down social media websites they don't like. It's absolutely sickening to see Democrats willingly giving up their free speech rights, just because they're angry with one man. You can't just shut down entire segments of the telecommunications infrastructure as a way to wage your political battles. That's a childish abuse of power, and everyone who isn't outraged by it should be ashamed of themselves and frankly grow up.
  - chalst 6y ago
    Trump's claims about a stolen election remind me of the Nazi's promotion of the Stolchdoß myth. Sometimes the free exercise of speech is a great danger. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stab-in-the-back_myth https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stab-in-the-back_myth
    - WClayFerguson 6y ago
      I think a better analogy was when Hitler started taking rights away from Jews little by little, and the public didn't recognize the problem early on. Democrats are always in favor of taking rights from others, until eventually they ultimately realize the mistake only once they want the rights back for themselves.

bmarquez 6y ago

Yes, it's called Facebook :) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_%28surveillance_program%29#Media_disclosure_of_PRISM https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_%28surveillance_program%...