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Just like how you didnt readily accept my link and presented me with an article debunking the vide, let me go deeper into the evidence presented by the debuking

Just like how you didnt readily accept my link and presented me with an article debunking the vide, let me go deeper into the evidence presented by the debuking article with my analysis that should be easy for you to verify. Link of the tweet the debunks the video #3. https://twitter.com/OKelections/status/1325910154907439104 https://twitter.com/OKelections/status/1325910154907439104 One of the images does show both yes and no filled, but that is the only one of the batch that is both filled. But for the rest of the batch, some dont seem to have multiple markings, that is they seem to be fully valid. Some torn ballots also have both checkmarks and rectangles filled. It seem highly unusual that someone would fill the rectangle for all the categories and then come back and put checkmarks? If someone accidentally put checkmarks instead of filling the rectangles. Then why would they come chose a different answer next time? As seen in the video where for many torn ballots one box is filled while other is checkmarked. [Sorry a picture would be helpful but you'll have to go therough the video manually] My asserion is this: the provision for discarding a spoiled ballots was exploited and valid ballots were marked with checkmarks in order for them to be discarded. You can also see from the long tails of the checkmarks that the person doing it was doing it quickly. Also if it was spoiled ballot why were there only mostly Trump ballots? If you think it was a a staged video, we can certainly contact the poster's instagram and ask him about his intentions. Source: https://www.instagram.com/p/CHY19zygjJw/ https://www.instagram.com/p/CHY19zygjJw/ _________________________________________________________ Regarding the Georgia video, the only thing the article says it that it was not a "suitcase" but a ballot box. Which doesn't dispute the fact that the ballot-box or "the suitcase" was pulled from under the table and then the ballots were counted after the poll watches were told to leave. Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avh-kOYfaOs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avh-kOYfaOs _____________________________________ Also how did you debunk the video showing that a dead person voted?

tptacek 6y ago
The Instagram post you've linked to here came up with a giant "false information: verified by independent fact checkers" label. You're citing random links and assertions, and when they're knocked down, you move on to new ones. That's what a Gish Gallop is. The fallacy you're exploiting is the notion that we're not supposed to see your assertions failing (and you refusing to acknowledging those failures) and draw conclusions about the rest of your assertions. A reasonable person looks at this exchange and concludes that there's no particular reason to take any of your arguments seriously.
- condomhacker 6y ago
  Verified by independent fact checkers, based on the same tweet from an official government account. Which claims that those were spoiled ballots. My comment and assertion still stands. Just because you see “don’t look, trust me” doesn’t mean you should stop thinking there.
  - tptacek 6y ago
    The overwhelmingly Republican Oklahoma State Board of Elections, appointed by the Republican governor of Oklahoma with the consent of the Republican Oklahoma State Senate, debunked this video specifically, down to the subprecinct. This doesn't seem like a good faith argument, but that doesn't matter; I'm not interested in the argument, so much as I am in how this thread does in fact provide a pretty good illustration of what a Gish Gallop is.
    - condomhacker 6y ago
      You are not wrong in thinking that it is a Gish Gallop in that yes there are too many links to refute. Which is why I didn't want anyone to refute them all. And chose only 4.
      - tptacek 6y ago
        Again, people who understand what a Gish Gallop is aren't going to be persuaded by anything you're saying, because they know the same tactics could be used to establish that up is down, or that pants are shirts. That's why 'harryh pointed this out to you. You can't persuade people simply by being too tedious to argue with --- like you are here, where, when confronted with a refutation of one of your claims, you pretend not to have seen that and retreat to abstraction.
- condomhacker 6y ago
  Just because a thinking falls in to a pattern of fallacy doesn’t mean that what I claim is wrong. You can check the video and read what I claim, think logically and ask yourself what are the cases where someone could check box for option A then fill another box. And honestly that’s just minute nothing of the many irregularities if you do go though the links. Also, I’m not citing random links all of these show that there are many irregularities and there is suppression of information and free exchange. I choose only four out of thousand cause I don’t have the time and I don’t get paid. Again, I dont live in America so Trump winning or losing directly doesn’t matter to me.

tptacek 6y ago

The Instagram post you've linked to here came up with a giant "false information: verified by independent fact checkers" label. You're citing random links and assertions, and when they're knocked down, you move on to new ones. That's what a Gish Gallop is. The fallacy you're exploiting is the notion that we're not supposed to see your assertions failing (and you refusing to acknowledging those failures) and draw conclusions about the rest of your assertions. A reasonable person looks at this exchange and concludes that there's no particular reason to take any of your arguments seriously.

condomhacker 6y ago
Verified by independent fact checkers, based on the same tweet from an official government account. Which claims that those were spoiled ballots. My comment and assertion still stands. Just because you see “don’t look, trust me” doesn’t mean you should stop thinking there.
- tptacek 6y ago
  The overwhelmingly Republican Oklahoma State Board of Elections, appointed by the Republican governor of Oklahoma with the consent of the Republican Oklahoma State Senate, debunked this video specifically, down to the subprecinct. This doesn't seem like a good faith argument, but that doesn't matter; I'm not interested in the argument, so much as I am in how this thread does in fact provide a pretty good illustration of what a Gish Gallop is.
  - condomhacker 6y ago
    You are not wrong in thinking that it is a Gish Gallop in that yes there are too many links to refute. Which is why I didn't want anyone to refute them all. And chose only 4.
    - tptacek 6y ago
      Again, people who understand what a Gish Gallop is aren't going to be persuaded by anything you're saying, because they know the same tactics could be used to establish that up is down, or that pants are shirts. That's why 'harryh pointed this out to you. You can't persuade people simply by being too tedious to argue with --- like you are here, where, when confronted with a refutation of one of your claims, you pretend not to have seen that and retreat to abstraction.
condomhacker 6y ago
Just because a thinking falls in to a pattern of fallacy doesn’t mean that what I claim is wrong. You can check the video and read what I claim, think logically and ask yourself what are the cases where someone could check box for option A then fill another box. And honestly that’s just minute nothing of the many irregularities if you do go though the links. Also, I’m not citing random links all of these show that there are many irregularities and there is suppression of information and free exchange. I choose only four out of thousand cause I don’t have the time and I don’t get paid. Again, I dont live in America so Trump winning or losing directly doesn’t matter to me.