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This is absolutely as close as anyone should come to arguing against removing Trump. Once you're inciting violence free speech goes out the window -- and free s

This is absolutely as close as anyone should come to arguing against removing Trump. Once you're inciting violence free speech goes out the window -- and free speech here also gives companies the right to block you.

jtbayly 6y ago
Free speech like the response to this week by the Cincinnati Mayor? > "These are traitors," Cranley said, mentioning a pro-Trump supporter, Ashli Babbitt, a California resident who was shot and killed by Capitol police and a history of supporting unfounded conspiracy theories. "Traitors get shot. That's what happened." [0] Is that the sort of inciting violence that should get you banned on Twitter? [0]: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2021/01/08/as-council-denounces-dc-riot-cranley-says-traitors.html https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2021/01/08/as-co...
- olliej 6y ago
  You look at the context, he’s saying a person in the act of a violent insurrection should expect lethal force in response. He’s not inciting violence, he’s stating why the violence occurred. He could also be simply saying treason carries the potential for the death penalty. Either way not inciting violence. He isn’t saying go use force against all the insurrectionists, unlike some politicians who were actively saying use force to overthrow the election.
  - throwaway201103 6y ago
    "use force to overthrow the election" Which politicians said that?
    - kube-system 6y ago
      Rudy told the crowd “let’s have trial by combat” shortly before they marched to the capitol.
      - jtbayly 6y ago
        1. "Trial by combat" means one person fights one other person, and the victor is considered "right." 2. And note the context! In this case it is clear that he is speaking of a one-on-one challenge where reputation is at stake, not life or limb, and where the combat is making the evidence public. Watch the video. Don't take my word for it: https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1346847382768676864 https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1346847382768676864 I'm no Rudy fan, and I'm not going to try to justify what Trump and other Republicans have been doing, but give me a break. If Cranley isn't inciting, then neither was Rudy.

jtbayly 6y ago

Free speech like the response to this week by the Cincinnati Mayor? > "These are traitors," Cranley said, mentioning a pro-Trump supporter, Ashli Babbitt, a California resident who was shot and killed by Capitol police and a history of supporting unfounded conspiracy theories. "Traitors get shot. That's what happened." [0] Is that the sort of inciting violence that should get you banned on Twitter? [0]: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2021/01/08/as-council-denounces-dc-riot-cranley-says-traitors.html https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2021/01/08/as-co...

olliej 6y ago
You look at the context, he’s saying a person in the act of a violent insurrection should expect lethal force in response. He’s not inciting violence, he’s stating why the violence occurred. He could also be simply saying treason carries the potential for the death penalty. Either way not inciting violence. He isn’t saying go use force against all the insurrectionists, unlike some politicians who were actively saying use force to overthrow the election.
- throwaway201103 6y ago
  "use force to overthrow the election" Which politicians said that?
  - kube-system 6y ago
    Rudy told the crowd “let’s have trial by combat” shortly before they marched to the capitol.
    - jtbayly 6y ago
      1. "Trial by combat" means one person fights one other person, and the victor is considered "right." 2. And note the context! In this case it is clear that he is speaking of a one-on-one challenge where reputation is at stake, not life or limb, and where the combat is making the evidence public. Watch the video. Don't take my word for it: https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1346847382768676864 https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1346847382768676864 I'm no Rudy fan, and I'm not going to try to justify what Trump and other Republicans have been doing, but give me a break. If Cranley isn't inciting, then neither was Rudy.