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What things? Burning down small businesses, attacking people and creating 'autonomous zones'?

fortran77 6y ago
Also hateful propaganda against Jews. For some strange reason, the official BLM platform denounces Jews and the indigenous peoples of Judea and Samaria. See https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/08/why-did-black-american-activists-start-caring-about-palestine/496088/ https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/08/why-did... for a balanced opinion on this. While I'm sympathetic to some of the problems that BLM addresses--like the militarization of our Police Forces--I can't stick my neck out for them because of their hatred of Jews.
- olivermarks 6y ago
  I disapprove of what the Marxist BLM say, but I will defend (probably not to my death admittedly) their right to say it. This is what a liberal democracy is.
  - fortran77 6y ago
    They certainly do have a right to their beliefs. I would like them better if they had a narrow focus of U.S. Police overstepping their bounds, and the mistreatment of black people in the U.S. I agree completely that that's a problem. But they've expanded their agenda beyond that, and muddled their goals.
    - olivermarks 6y ago
      I think the challenge is many people have campaigned for improved civil rights and police reforms under the 'BLM' banner without knowing who the core organization actually is. In the UK you will be banned from football stadiums for performing a 'white power' clenched fist in the crowd, but the BLM Marxist black power clenched fist is performed before each match by kneeling professional players in memory of the death of George Floyd several thousand miles away and many months ago last year. This confusion about racism and efforts to signal support are IMO very clumsy, comingling Marxist politics with laudable efforts to support unfair and heavy handed policing of some black people. Similarly the comingling of a minority of 'far right' wingnuts amongst moderate conservatives, greatly amplified and distorted by the corporate media, has gravely misrepresented mainstream common sense concerns. The various sensationalist media companies have a lot to answer for, they are fanning the flames of division, encouraging bigots and ignoring the mainstream masses
- amanaplanacanal 6y ago
  That article is pretty old. Also you are misrepresenting it, as the platform point was about Israel and Palestine, not jews. I have been unable to find a current platform, so it is unclear if that is actually still in there.

Also hateful propaganda against Jews. For some strange reason, the official BLM platform denounces Jews and the indigenous peoples of Judea and Samaria. See https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/08/why-did-black-american-activists-start-caring-about-palestine/496088/ https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/08/why-did... for a balanced opinion on this. While I'm sympathetic to some of the problems that BLM addresses--like the militarization of our Police Forces--I can't stick my neck out for them because of their hatred of Jews.

olivermarks 6y ago
I disapprove of what the Marxist BLM say, but I will defend (probably not to my death admittedly) their right to say it. This is what a liberal democracy is.
- fortran77 6y ago
  They certainly do have a right to their beliefs. I would like them better if they had a narrow focus of U.S. Police overstepping their bounds, and the mistreatment of black people in the U.S. I agree completely that that's a problem. But they've expanded their agenda beyond that, and muddled their goals.
  - olivermarks 6y ago
    I think the challenge is many people have campaigned for improved civil rights and police reforms under the 'BLM' banner without knowing who the core organization actually is. In the UK you will be banned from football stadiums for performing a 'white power' clenched fist in the crowd, but the BLM Marxist black power clenched fist is performed before each match by kneeling professional players in memory of the death of George Floyd several thousand miles away and many months ago last year. This confusion about racism and efforts to signal support are IMO very clumsy, comingling Marxist politics with laudable efforts to support unfair and heavy handed policing of some black people. Similarly the comingling of a minority of 'far right' wingnuts amongst moderate conservatives, greatly amplified and distorted by the corporate media, has gravely misrepresented mainstream common sense concerns. The various sensationalist media companies have a lot to answer for, they are fanning the flames of division, encouraging bigots and ignoring the mainstream masses
amanaplanacanal 6y ago
That article is pretty old. Also you are misrepresenting it, as the platform point was about Israel and Palestine, not jews. I have been unable to find a current platform, so it is unclear if that is actually still in there.