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What happened was an attempted political assassination: Q anon supporters stormed the capitol with guns, zip ties, and pipe bombs, chanting "hang mike pence." I

What happened was an attempted political assassination: Q anon supporters stormed the capitol with guns, zip ties, and pipe bombs, chanting "hang mike pence." I imagine we make "I will kill you" exemptions for free speech.

olivermarks 6y ago
This is wildly incorrect. ' Q anon supporters storming the capitol with guns, zip ties, and pipe bombs, chanting "hang mike pence' is a dangerous media fantasy. A huge number of people demonstrated, a tiny number broke the law. We are entering very dangerous, 1930's Reichstag like 'problem, reaction, solution' authoritarianism with these free speech crack downs. Patriot Act 2.0 is ready to go versus 'domestic terrorists'.
- flunhat 6y ago
  There's video evidence, lol: https://twitter.com/59dallas/status/1346963199778828290?s=20 https://twitter.com/59dallas/status/1346963199778828290?s=20
  - olivermarks 6y ago
    Yes of course there is, along with a motley crew straight out of central casting in bizarre outfits posing for press photos... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_Fire_Decree https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_Fire_Decree 'Seizing on the burning of the Reichstag building as the supposed opening salvo in a communist uprising, the Nazis were able to throw millions of Germans into a convulsion of fear at the threat of Communist terror' For communists read Qanon, proud boys et etc
    - olivermarks 6y ago
      The Many Occasions Joe Biden Took Credit For Writing The Patriot Act Biden has repeatedly claimed that a bill he wrote in 1994 was essentially the same as the 2001 Patriot Act. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/andrewkaczynski/surveillance-joe https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/andrewkaczynski/surveil...
    - Delmania 6y ago
      You are severely underestimating how dangerous these people are. This was not a group of people hiding in a pack of demonstrators. The Proud Boys and QAnon supporters are the ones behind this. Chris Hayes has a segment that shows just how dangerous the situation really was. The motley crew was the exception.
      - olivermarks 6y ago
        MSNBC are an absolute disgrace IMO. 'The Proud Boys and QAnon supporters are the ones behind this.' These are tiny bogey man segments of society cable TV bobbleheads terrify everyone with to help justify removing people's basic rights. The incoming biden crew have a Patriot Act 2.0 ready to go to combat 'domestic terrorists', which could include just about anyone who doesn't comply with the party line
    - DarmokJalad1701 6y ago
      Strangely, the "motley crew out of central casting" got arrested. Are you claiming that these are "paid actors"? Damn dedicated actors if they are. https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona-breaking/2021/01/09/jake-angeli-fur-hat-and-horns-arrested-raid-u-s-capitol/6604898002/ https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona-breaking/...
- Delmania 6y ago
  Quite the contrary. If anything, the coverage did not show the full story. The majority of these people were out for blood. They erected hanging stations. The fought with the police. This was no demonstration. These people were to overturn the election and hurt or kill anyone who got in their way. Free speech decidedly does not protect this.
  - 18pfsmt 6y ago
    Elections cannot be over turned by occupying a building in the USA for a couple hours, This is unnecessarily hyperbolic and very partisan. Congress completed their duties later in the evening.
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    - bduerst 6y ago
      Everything said by the person you replied to is the truth, not hyperbole. Just because the mob and their fatal invasion of the nation's capitol was not successful does not mean that their motives were not anti-democratic. Why are you apologizing for the insurrection's actions?

olivermarks 6y ago

This is wildly incorrect. ' Q anon supporters storming the capitol with guns, zip ties, and pipe bombs, chanting "hang mike pence' is a dangerous media fantasy. A huge number of people demonstrated, a tiny number broke the law. We are entering very dangerous, 1930's Reichstag like 'problem, reaction, solution' authoritarianism with these free speech crack downs. Patriot Act 2.0 is ready to go versus 'domestic terrorists'.

flunhat 6y ago
There's video evidence, lol: https://twitter.com/59dallas/status/1346963199778828290?s=20 https://twitter.com/59dallas/status/1346963199778828290?s=20
- olivermarks 6y ago
  Yes of course there is, along with a motley crew straight out of central casting in bizarre outfits posing for press photos... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_Fire_Decree https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_Fire_Decree 'Seizing on the burning of the Reichstag building as the supposed opening salvo in a communist uprising, the Nazis were able to throw millions of Germans into a convulsion of fear at the threat of Communist terror' For communists read Qanon, proud boys et etc
  - olivermarks 6y ago
    The Many Occasions Joe Biden Took Credit For Writing The Patriot Act Biden has repeatedly claimed that a bill he wrote in 1994 was essentially the same as the 2001 Patriot Act. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/andrewkaczynski/surveillance-joe https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/andrewkaczynski/surveil...
  - Delmania 6y ago
    You are severely underestimating how dangerous these people are. This was not a group of people hiding in a pack of demonstrators. The Proud Boys and QAnon supporters are the ones behind this. Chris Hayes has a segment that shows just how dangerous the situation really was. The motley crew was the exception.
    - olivermarks 6y ago
      MSNBC are an absolute disgrace IMO. 'The Proud Boys and QAnon supporters are the ones behind this.' These are tiny bogey man segments of society cable TV bobbleheads terrify everyone with to help justify removing people's basic rights. The incoming biden crew have a Patriot Act 2.0 ready to go to combat 'domestic terrorists', which could include just about anyone who doesn't comply with the party line
  - DarmokJalad1701 6y ago
    Strangely, the "motley crew out of central casting" got arrested. Are you claiming that these are "paid actors"? Damn dedicated actors if they are. https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona-breaking/2021/01/09/jake-angeli-fur-hat-and-horns-arrested-raid-u-s-capitol/6604898002/ https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona-breaking/...
Delmania 6y ago
Quite the contrary. If anything, the coverage did not show the full story. The majority of these people were out for blood. They erected hanging stations. The fought with the police. This was no demonstration. These people were to overturn the election and hurt or kill anyone who got in their way. Free speech decidedly does not protect this.
- 18pfsmt 6y ago
  Elections cannot be over turned by occupying a building in the USA for a couple hours, This is unnecessarily hyperbolic and very partisan. Congress completed their duties later in the evening.
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  - bduerst 6y ago
    Everything said by the person you replied to is the truth, not hyperbole. Just because the mob and their fatal invasion of the nation's capitol was not successful does not mean that their motives were not anti-democratic. Why are you apologizing for the insurrection's actions?