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There is no ask. That they are even getting a migration period is very gracious of Amazon. When the decision to ban was made, Parler ceased being a customer and
by nexuist 6y ago
There is no ask. That they are even getting a migration period is very gracious of Amazon. When the decision to ban was made, Parler ceased being a customer and became a liability - one that AWS would presumably try to get rid of as fast as possible. They have no responsibility to keep their services open for Parler.
- spoonjim 6y agoThey do have a responsibility to allow customers to migrate in reasonable time frames. This move tells every other AWS customer: “be ready to move at a moments notice.” That’s not a good thing for AWS.
- voldemort1968 6y ago...If you welcome organized violence at a national scale
- bitlax 6y agoOh so basically every Democrat in 2020.
- faitswulff 6y agoMost customers will probably be insulated from these kinds of decisions due to not hosting hate speech and calls for violence.
- Mountain_Skies 6y agoAs long as those definitions never change, which of course they constantly do. By today's standards, the wildly popular TV show 'Friends' is full of hate speech. Who knows what will be considered hate speech tomorrow.
- ed25519FUUU 6y agoHave you seen the Office? Absolutely packed with harmful hate speech and violent tropes.
- ungamed 6y agoEverything, Everything will eventually be considered hate speech. Every idea is offensive to someone.
- pixl97 6y agoWell, the bar seems pretty high at "Your users committed an act of insurrection against the current legitimate democratic government"
- megous 6y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Turkish_coup_d'état_attempt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Turkish_coup_d'état_attem... Please ban facebook now
- bduerst 6y ago>Whatabout Facebook Facebook doesn't use AWS, and at least attempts to moderate calls to violence.
- megous 6y ago> "Your users committed an act of insurrection against the current legitimate democratic government" If this is the bar, then it was met by a coup attempt organized on whatsapp in 2016. There's nothing whatabout about it.
- pixl97 6y agoI don't personally use FB for a multitude of reasons. But they are self hosted, so AWS isn't going to be banning them any time soon.
- ttul 6y agoChances are, Parler has had numerous warnings. AWS would not spring this on a customer without forewarning.
- ed25519FUUU 6y agoWell Jan 6th was 3 days ago.
- ttul 6y agoYes, but how many warnings did they receive before January 6th?
- propogandist 6y agothis is from left wing cancel culture organizations rallying to shutdown the platform where conservative audiences were migrating. Like Apple, Google and others, this is a coordinate effort to quickly silence opposing voices.
- erentz 6y agoIt says more: “don’t get caught providing a service for terrorists organizing violent acts”... AWS doesn’t want your business. Neither does anyone else. Nor do they want to be legally liable in any way. So if you’re in that business you probably should not host on US based providers of any kind.
- x86_64Ubuntu 6y agoThe funny thing is that HN wants to get rid of Section 230, yet when these services dispense rhetoric that might bite them in the ass, HN gets upset.
- grzm 6y ago> "The funny thing is that HN wants" HN doesn't want anything. Or if it does, you—as a member of HN—want it, too. If you're going to grant an exception to yourself, grant it to others here, as well. HN is a huge community of humans. Those that post things on what you perceive as arguing one position are probably not the same ones you're seeing arguing the opposite. And even if they are, humans are well known for inconsistency.
- x86_64Ubuntu 6y agoI'm not going to sit here and pretend for the sake of other's comfort that 230 Repeal isn't the majority opinion in this site.
- grzm 6y agoWe tend to remember things that catch our attention over things that we think are normal, which can bias us to believe there's a higher number of voices against us than there actually are. That's not to say that perhaps there's not a majority, but I don't think we can assess that without some real numbers. Do you have those? If so, what was your methodology?
- brink 6y agoWhat engineering team is going to want to tie themselves deeply to a system that builds a reputation for kicking clients off with a 1 day notice?
- ed25519FUUU 6y agoActivists.
- res0nat0r 6y agoMany of the biggest companies in the world and they aren't going anywhere anytime soon.
- akhilcacharya 6y agoEngineering teams that aren't building apps for terrorists of course.
- x86_64Ubuntu 6y agoNo one who is in a benign industry like insole inserts, or automotive parts is looking at Parler, and thinking "that could be us". Don't be ridiculous.